Someone enlighten me please - Iran

and no one has proof that Iran even has a nuke yet.

Have we not yet learned the lesson from North Korea? If we wait for proof, it is too late. North Korea is now secure from us, because of their nukes; shall we add Iran to that column, as well? Given 18 years of deceiving the IAEA, why should we believe otherwise? Why would a nation sincerely interested in developing peaceful nuclear technology conceal it, as Iran has done?

Even the Europeans are convinced that Iran is working on it, and that's quite a feat. These fears are not overblown, but it is too late to stop Iran short of military action.

 

we had no proof of WMDs when we invaded Iraq and didn't find any proof once we were there.

The weapons are in Syria, and will be found, eventually.

 

Ken,

I read the link you posted earlier on this page. Are you suggesting that the way to respond to an Iran that has threatened an ally, and which has a very expansive nuclear program (over 300 sites I believe you noted earlier) is to expand economic relations with them? That is the economic interdependence argument that was argued for in dealing with the Soviet Union by the liberal foreign policy establishment up until Reagan. Why in the world would anyone seriously believe (except for someone at antiwar.com) that a Pollyanna approach of "trying to show our peaceful intentions" will work with a radical regime so vociferously anti-American? Ken, you are too well read on foreign policy to seriously believe this has a remote chance of doing anything other than demonstrating our weakness.

I will ask again, for Ken, poncho, or anyone else: what will Iran have to do or demonstrate for you to entertain any level of military action against them?

 

Doubtful. With the exception of the dam region, the Euphrates is relatively shallow. However, the imaging capability of military sattelites (and even many civilian sattelites) would be able to detect with ease the contents of bodies of water.

It is likely that the Angel out of the Euphrates reference is an analogy of something else ( Revelation is by no means short on analogy). But hey, I could be wrong. Since it's Revelation we're talking about, our best ideas are speculative at best, and we could all be wrong in the end.

 

I think they would have to lanch a military attack against US forces or the USA for such action. So far no such thing has been done.

Just thinking they are a threat is not enough.

 

I see that we have forgotten the lessons of Pearl Harbor and 9-11; if we wait, it is too late...

 

I agree with Kiffen. But, I'd also have to say that I would be very leary of any report of an Iranian "terrorist bombing" in the United States. I would have a hard time excepting it as truth from an administration that has already been caught in numerous lies and deceptions.

This Russian general sums it up best imho.

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Add yet another top government "official" to the already long list that is saying the same thing. I do not however agree with his "remedy".

 

Globalism. The redistribution of wealth, resources, information, and technology from the haves to the have nots. That's socialism on a global scale. I thought all you so called "conservatives" were against socialism.

 

Says our modern day Chamberlin... who likewise thought that if Hitler were left alone he'd leave others alone... or that just one country was enough... or one more... or.....

 

Oh... and the difference between Hitler's military machine and Iran's potential nukes- EFFICIENCY.

 

The Russian general's "September 11 was a fraud and a conspiracy set up" tells me this guy is a kook. In the fine print, you'll probably find him arguing the moon landing was a fraud, too.

 

says nothing, but quietly whistles "Twilight Zone" theme to himself...

 

Yeah a kook, like so many other government "officials" and intell insider whistle blowers that are saying the same thing all over the world.

How conveinent for the coincidence theorists and globalists that knowledgable insiders can be labeled "kooks and loonies" so easily.

On second thought make that a hardy...

 

At this point, those who say 9/11 was a fraud and conspiracy are on the same credibility level as those who deny the Holocaust.

BTW, if flight 77 didn't go into the Pentagon... where are those people? I liked Barbara Olson and would like to see her again.

 

Kiffen,

I think they would have to lanch a military attack against US forces or the USA for such action. So far no such thing has been done.

So the answer is to wait on another Pearl Harbor--or September 11? How many Americans are you willing to have die waiting on them to attack?

 

Still throwing garbage in the groceries eh Scott?