Someone enlighten me please - Iran

How much have you heard about the UN Charter, the UN Earth Charter, Agenda 21 or Sustainable Development sitting there in your vault?

These are communist programs to destroy christianity and America while you guys "in the know" are busy watching MI5 and CIA operatives make threats of doom to America on tv the real threat to this country goes un noticed. </font>[/QUOTE]Come on brother Poncho, that is not a fair assessment.

 

I agree that the agendas cited are a serious threat. We should have pulled out of the UN years ago. But there are physical threats, as well, thwarted by men sitting in vaults, like AF Guy N Paradise.

My stepfather does the same thing, only his vault is in the Carter Library. I wish he and I could have a few hours off the record...

 

How much have you heard about the UN Charter, the UN Earth Charter, Agenda 21 or Sustainable Development sitting there in your vault?

These are communist programs to destroy christianity and America while you guys "in the know" are busy watching MI5 and CIA operatives make threats of doom to America on tv the real threat to this country goes un noticed. </font>[/QUOTE]Come on brother Poncho, that is not a fair assessment. </font>[/QUOTE]I guess it's just hard to absorb. The evidence throughout history of state sponsored terror to control populations is overwhelming. The idea of world government (new empire) is to bring the nations of the planet and all the resources therein into submission and control of one single world authority. That's the goal. Do you think they would let America stand strong outside of their authority with all our resources?

What's a few trillion dollars and thirty or fourty years and millions of lives to create the final enemies to bring America down to managable size?

2005 ADVANCES THE STRUCTURE AND POWER OF WORLD GOVERNMENT

 

On page A12 of today's Investor's Business Daily (Investors.com, must be a subscriber) is an editorial detailing assertions from both former Iraqi's and current Israel intelligence that Iraq's WMD's were indeed moved to Syria.

 

More of the same "intelligence" we heard before we invaded Iraq...and still no proof, just words from people with a self-interest in having the U.S. remove Saddam Hussein from power.

 

How can there be "proof" without checking out Syria? You seem (without having all the facts) to believe that President Bush conducts illegal "spying", with NO proof, yet ignore strong indications that Iraq did have, and moved WMD's? How inconsistent can one get!!!

 

What believable strong indications are there from an independent source?

Those who are so eager for the U.S. to attack Iran know that so many of we Americans who were burned by believing the Bush administration's "intelligence" sources in Iraq are demanding real proof this time. That is why we see this effort to sell this "the WMDs were moved to Syria" idea.

Since the Bush administration's "intelligence" sources had it wrong three years ago I see no reason accept their word this time.

 

Who, in your opinion, is an independent source? Who has better intelligence than the Israelis? (Anybody in the intel community knows that there IS no better than Israel.) With 3/4's of the documents seized from Iraq still needing analysis, and with Syria off-limits, we haven't finished any WMD investigation. I personally know active US intel analysts who are STILL convinced that they were moved to Syria.

In other words, the jury is still out, yet you act like the trial is over. It's not...

 

Well, using your basis, we will never know the answer since we can't find out anything from Syria unless it tells us.

Therefore, I will remain skeptical unless proof is provided from Syria or elsewhere.

 

Here's another report of an eyewitness who claims to have seen UBL in pre-war Baghdad.

Of course, if you are an Iraq War supporter, you'll probably believe the report; if you are an opponent, you will probably discount it.

 

Neocon mouthpieces still clinging to Osama Saddam link.