Son of Man

[CoJoJax]

OK.. this is going to sound like a dumb question I'm sure..

I was reading John this afternoon.. and I get the "Son of God" title for Jesus.. because he's God's son!

But I just do not get "Son of Man".. Man's son??? I just don't understand. Can somebody please help me understand that title for Jesus?

Thanks!

CJ

 

[canadyjd]

"Son of Man" is a Messianic Title for Jesus.

See Rev. 1:12, and various O.T. passages (Ezekiel)

peace to youraying:

 

[tinytim]

Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

 

[pinoybaptist]

Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

And the Jews, and Jesus' disciples, knew exactly what Jesus meant when He used that title on Himself.
That He is Divine.
That He is the Son of Man in heaven referred to in Daniel.

 

[Marcia]

Not only does Son of man refer to Daniel, but it also shows the humanity of Jesus.

He is Son of God and therefore deity, and he is Son of man and therefore also man. "Son of" indicates having the same nature as.

 

[kyredneck]

..... "Son of" indicates having the same nature as.

Thanks for the articulation, Marcia.

 

[tinytim]

Not only does Son of man refer to Daniel, but it also shows the humanity of Jesus.

He is Son of God and therefore deity, and he is Son of man and therefore also man. "Son of" indicates having the same nature as.

NOPE... you're wrong!...


ROFLBO!!! Just picking on you, sister... there is too much agreeing in this thread... for it to be in a Baptist section...

Isn't it wonderful that Christ has the same nature as us... he understands us..that is comforting.

 

[donnA]

So Son of man means, Jesus was divine, the Messiah.

 

[tinytim]

Yes Donna, in one sense because of the prophecy in Daniel, the Jews would have recognized this title as belonging to the Messiah...

In another sense, it also points to his complete Humanity.

100% God
100% Man

 

[kyredneck]

...Isn't it wonderful that Christ has the same nature as us... he understands us..that is comforting.

Another good articulation. Thanks.


......and it is indeed comforting.

 

[donnA]

Yes Donna, in one sense because of the prophecy in Daniel, the Jews would have recognized this title as belonging to the Messiah...

In another sense, it also points to his complete Humanity.

100% God
100% Man

Thansk Tim,
when Jesus called Himself Son of man, they all knew what He was saying, no wonder the religeous leader didn't like Him, they understood what He was claiming.
ok, this makes sence

 

[webdog]

"Son of" indicates having the same nature as.

How can this be if you hold to Augustinian original sin?

 

[Thinkingstuff]

How can this be if you hold to Augustinian original sin?

You're talking about two different things. Jesus is in his nature human. (I'm not saying he isn't in his nature God he is that too). This is not saying the same thing that he was born corruptable with an adamic nature. two different things. He could be tempted, suffer, get hungry and knows all the things we go through. Though he did not sin. Sin is an additive to our nature not how we are initially made. Sin nature means that we move towards corruptness and disobedience by default. Jesus did not have this default.

 

[pinoybaptist]

How can this be if you hold to Augustinian original sin?

oh, now, webbie, lookit what y'all done.
I choked on my cheese stix.
why for do you have to ask a question like that ?
which is a valid question, by the way.
answers, anyone ?
I don't have any.

 

[Tom Bryant]

Isn't it wonderful that Christ has the same nature as us... he understands us..that is comforting.

And a little scary: I have no excuses!

 

[webdog]

You're talking about two different things. Jesus is in his nature human. (I'm not saying he isn't in his nature God he is that too). This is not saying the same thing that he was born corruptable with an adamic nature. two different things. He could be tempted, suffer, get hungry and knows all the things we go through. Though he did not sin. Sin is an additive to our nature not how we are initially made. Sin nature means that we move towards corruptness and disobedience by default. Jesus did not have this default.

Scripture that the adamic nature and human nature are two different natures?

 

[webdog]

oh, now, webbie, lookit what y'all done.
I choked on my cheese stix.
why for do you have to ask a question like that ?
which is a valid question, by the way.
answers, anyone ?
I don't have any.

Sorry, PB...I can walk you through self heimlich if you like...I've had to do it to myself once

 

[Robert Snow]

I agree with what is being said here, most all of it!

I have heard preachers say that Jesus is as much man as though He is not God, and as much God as though he is not man. One hundred percent man, and one hundred percent God.

I believe this is a mystery that is beyond human comprehension. I just thank God that Jesus is my Savior!

 

[Thinkingstuff]

Scripture that the adamic nature and human nature are two different natures?

Ok

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

Here man was created in the image of God and his nature was good in that all things that God had made is good.

Now after the fall this is what we get

For when we were controlled by the sinful nature, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death.

and

I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.

Which is indictative of the good struggeling with the sin and the default goes to disobedience. Jesus doesn't have that default but was incarnated as the second adam and over came sin unlike the first adam.

 

[webdog]

TS, I see nothing from that which separates natures...I see the human nature now tainted by sin. I still see only one nature, but post fall it has been tainted by sin, hence physical death. Christ had such a nature, physically died...yet was not a sinner. Augtine's OS teaches man is a sinner due to having such a nature, and like Marcia pointed out, Christ had the exact same nature as us...yet...was without sin. The fact "son of" refers to the "nature of" in itself disproves AOS and inherited guilt.

In addition, sinful mankind post fall is still referred to as being made in the image of God. (Genesis 9:6; James 3:9)

"Whoever sheds the blood of man,
by man shall his blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made man.

With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness.