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'Son of Sam' Serial Killer David Berkowitz Says He Won't Seek Parole in 2012 Read mo

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Matt Black

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Good for him. So many times I see convicts flaunt their faith with, one suspects, at least half an eye cocked towards the parole board, but this guy is different and I believe he's the genuine article.
 
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Amy.G

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There is no sin too big for God to forgive. I wonder how many people the Apostle Paul put to death?

:godisgood: ALL THE TIME!
 
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webdog

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matt wade said:
Berkowitz is a prime example why I am not in favor of the death penalty.
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What does that have to do with it? We are sovereign over God if we put someone to death who deserves it and they somehow "might" have accepted Him if we hadn't? That puts everything onto man and not God.

If they perish eternally after capital punishment, they are without excuse.
 
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matt wade

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webdog said:
What does that have to do with it? We are sovereign over God if we put someone to death who deserves it and they somehow "might" have accepted Him if we hadn't? That puts everything onto man and not God.

If they perish eternally after capital punishment, they are without excuse.
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You are right webdog. Let's just abort everyone immediately upon conception. That way they all go to heaven.
 
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FR7 Baptist

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matt wade said:
Berkowitz is a prime example why I am not in favor of the death penalty.
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I don't believe that the state executing someone will thwart God's plan of salvation. I've been in favor of the death penalty for first-degree murder with aggravating factors, but that may change. Not because it's unjust inherently, but rather because I don't see it as being needed in modernity and because of the possibility of a wrongful execution.
 
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webdog

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matt wade said:
You are right webdog. Let's just abort everyone immediately upon conception. That way they all go to heaven.
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non sequitur [ˈnɒn ˈsɛkwɪtə]
n
1. a statement having little or no relevance to what preceded it
2. (Philosophy / Logic) Logic a conclusion that does not follow from the premises Abbreviation non seq
 
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matt wade

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webdog said:
non sequitur [ˈnɒn ˈsɛkwɪtə]
n
1. a statement having little or no relevance to what preceded it
2. (Philosophy / Logic) Logic a conclusion that does not follow from the premises Abbreviation non seq
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Delegitimize One's Opponent
Delegitimize one's opponent so as to avoid addressing the substance of his argument. This is another kind of ad hominem attack. The goal is to make it impossible for opponents to be heard respectfully in the debate.
 
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webdog

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matt wade said:
Delegitimize One's Opponent
Delegitimize one's opponent so as to avoid addressing the substance of his argument. This is another kind of ad hominem attack. The goal is to make it impossible for opponents to be heard respectfully in the debate.
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Red Herring

-NOUN

Something intended to distract attention away from the real problem or issue
 
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targus said:
You overlook a not so subtle difference.

The death penalty can be supported by Scripture.

Abortion can not be so supported.
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Thank you for clearly showing why his post was a non sequitur and disproving his take on my response.
 
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Eric B

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Carole Weaver, a spokeswoman for the New York State Division of Parole, said Berkowitz has been a model inmate with just one minor infraction on his disciplinary record from 2004. Details of that incident were not immediately available.
Berkowitz's claim, however, that he never plans to seek freedom is "unusual" among inmates, she said.
"Not many people who are incarcerated don't want to get out," Weaver told FoxNews.com.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/24/son-sam-david-berkowitz-wont-seek-parole-in-2012/#ixzz1W31OJHVE
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It kind of makes sense, because every time in the past he used to come up before the parole board, all they basically gave him was a virtual reiteration of the sentence, and then you got the same from the comments from former victims or their survivors as we see at the bottom. (And most of them really do not have any concept of human sinfulness or forgiveness. While it is understandable, given the terrible losses they suffered; yet sometimes they cross the line in practically speaking for God regarding the forgive-ability of him as a soul).
So it seems to be nothing but total humiliation, so he might as well give it up. He's probably safer in prison anyway.
 
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FR7 Baptist

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freeatlast said:
No you are not in favor of the death penalty because you are in rebellion to God's commands and want to be your own god.
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That's one of the most inane and asinine posts I've ever seen on this board. Of course, that's what I expect from an arrogant fundamentalist like you. I can't say I've been the biggest fan of Matt's views, but I'm going to stick up for him when it's warranted.
 
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billwald

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>The death penalty can be supported by Scripture.

Which NT scripture? We are supposed to be Christians, not Jews.
 
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freeatlast

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billwald said:
>The death penalty can be supported by Scripture.

Which NT scripture? We are supposed to be Christians, not Jews.
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Rom. 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.

The sword is not to prick a finger with or jab you with. The sword was an instrument of death. The death penalty is for today if you follow the Lord.
 
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Robert Snow

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Paul3144 said:
That's one of the most inane and asinine posts I've ever seen on this board. Of course, that's what I expect from an arrogant fundamentalist like you. I can't say I've been the biggest fan of Matt's views, but I'm going to stick up for him when it's warranted.
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People like freeatlast enjoy criticizing everyone else except their small, tiny group. Thank God this segment is only a fraction of true fundamentalism. I was saved at a church that developed into one of these churches a short time after my conversion. It took years to finally get away. There is hope, however, that freeatlast will one day see the error of his doctrine.
 
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