Sons of Disobedience

[Alcott]

All foods is clean is a translator addition - often in italics. The passage was not about food but about gentiles. It's not hard to understand if you read the passage

If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” (which all refer to things destined to perish ]with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men? These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence [Colossians 2:20-23].

 

[JamesL]

Galatians 3:
4 Have you experienced so much in vain—if it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard?

Rhetorical question, btw

 

[Yeshua1]

Is Jesus the Word? If you place your faith and trust in the Word (and Yeshua's redemption too) then you are obedient right?

Yes, due to me now being a child of God, but not as part of getting nor keeping salvation!

 

[Iconoclast]

There is now a new Covenant of Grace, and the law is not written upon our hearts!
Jesus said that we would be known by our love, not by obeying the law!

The law is not written upon our hearts?....
Is that what the New Covenant says?

 

[BobRyan]

There is now a new Covenant of Grace, and the law is not written upon our hearts!
Jesus said that we would be known by our love, not by obeying the law!

That is a pretty big problem and a bold confession.

The NEW Covenant of both Jeremiah 31:31-33 AND of Hebrews 8:6-10 says the SAME thing!
31 “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord. 33 “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Your claim to not be under the New Covenant -- noted. Your proof of it ... noted.

But what about the other Christians here? will they all join you in that regard?? This should be "instructive"!

by contrast -- the Bible.
"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"this IS the LOVE of God that we KEEP His Commandments" 1 John 5:2-3
"the SAINTS KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
"do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we ESTABLISH the LAW" Rom 3:31

Where then is this war against God's LAW? - Paul shows that war in contrast to the saints in Romans 8:4-10

All of this affirmed by many Christian scholars - including these groups


The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.

 

[BobRyan]

The law is not written upon our hearts?....
Is that what the New Covenant says?

Here then is at least one other voice here - not joining in rejection of the New Covenant

 

[Yeshua1]

The law is not written upon our hearts?....
Is that what the New Covenant says?

you are correct, meant to say that the Law is indeed now written upon our hearts!

 

[Yeshua1]

Here then is at least one other voice here - not joining in rejection of the New Covenant

You do in part, as insist that we must Sabbath keep still!

 

[Squire Robertsson]

This thread is closed as the OP is now banned.