ONE LAST THING -very important!
I just wanted to say one last thing that is very important for people to understand when it comes to this idea of the dead not really being dead, which is spiritualism's foundational doctrine...
You see, right then in the Apostle Paul's day, Gnosticism, pagan teachings, started coming into the early church and Paul and the faithful disciples of Christ fought vigorously against these fase teachings that were making their way into the church.
The Papacy was beginning to be formed. You see, Satan knows that whenever he used persecution on Christians it tended to spread the gospel even further, and so what he did next was to get people to MIX Christianity with paganism (the old "if you cant beat 'em join 'em" idea.
And so as I said, paganism was mixed with Christianity and you had the Papacy being formed. This is why the Apostle Paul said that "the mystery of iniquity doth already work" in 2 Thessalonians. It had already begun and would wax worse and worse.
When speaking of this mystery of iniquity that had already begun, Paul said that the second coming of Christ would NOT happen UNTIL the great apostasy in the church came first... involving "that man of SIN (LAWLESSNESS) who sits in the seat of God, acting as if he WERE God!" This of course is the Papacy! READ:
2Thes:2:
2: That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4: Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
7: For the mystery of iniquity doth already work
THEN Paul warned that those who "had pleasure in unrighteousness" (sin, lawlessness) would be sent a strong delusion...
9: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10: And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11: And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
THEN Paul admonished the brethren to "the traditions which ye have been taught" (which Roman Catholics twist 180 degrees around to try to support their ideas of using tradition instead of going by what the Bible says but actually Paul was telling the brethren to stand faithful AGAINST this Papacy and spiritualism that was making its way into the church)
15: Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
LAWLESSNESS was a large part of these false teachings!
The doctrine is now largely taught that the Gospel of Christ has made the Law of God of no effect; that by "believing" we are released from the necessity of being doers of the word. But this is the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which Christ so unsparingly condemned. To the church of Ephesus he says: 'I know thy works, and thy labor, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil; and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars; and hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast labored, and hast not fainted.
Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.'
..and of course we know that John was also was fighting against these Papal errors and Spiritualism/Gnosticism kept repeating the idea that the LIARS (also what Jesus called the Nicolataines) would claim they KNOW GOD when they didnt want to prove that by keeping His commandments! ("knowing God" was and is a Gnostic term they liked to use... yet they didnt know Him at all)
1Jn:2:4: He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
and of course we also have not only the not keeping the commandments at all but we have the Sabbath which the Roman Catholic Church changed to Sunday in honor of the pagan Sun God. Once again, Constantine had wanted to mix paganism with Christianity and make a "compromise". Thus we have the mark of the beast verses those who are God's people "they who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus"
Rv:12:17: And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rv:14:12: Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus
and then there is the false doctrine of eternal torment that also came from pagan spiritualism and the idea that the soul is naturally immortal.
Those Roman Catholics loved the idea of torturing people in hell forever and ever. Thats why they thought it a justifiable idea to torture people in the inquisition, to "save" their poor souls and force them to "recant" so that they wouldnt have to be tortured forever and ever in hell.
and the doctrine of purgatory and talking to dead saints...
at any rate, this is all one "package deal" of spiritualism and Roman Catholicism that the Christian Church have adopted, unknowingly, and this is why God is calling HIS PEOPLE Out of Babylon, that they be not partaker of her sins, and receive the wrath of God unmixed with mercy.
And you all would do well to listen to this message of mercy, God's last message to the world, given by the Three Angels of Revelation.
Claudia