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Sound Arguments for the Impeachment of Vice President Cheney

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Timsings

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KenH said:
I haven't thought that the idea of impeaching Vice President Cheney was a good one but Mr. Utley puts forth some compelling reasons to at least get the process started.


http://antiwar.com/utley/?articleid=11440
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It would be nice, but, given the time involved even to get the process started, it will never happen, and probably shouldn't. I suspect that, if he goes too far toward war in Iran, Bush, with the help of other party leaders, might do something to rein Cheney in. I think he has been revealed to be a millstone around the neck of the GOP.

In any case, thanks for the link to the Anti-War web site.

Tim Reynolds
 
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hillclimber1

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Good luck with that.:laugh: Is this how you leftists envision, "helping make America great?" More attacks on America, and her leaders?

These fun little exercises, are designed by the radical leftists now in charge of the Dem. party, and they are using you gullible ones to help elect hillary. You are putting all your efforts into electing, who this week? Oh yes Ron Paul. Why don't you show your support for America by displaying his attributes, instead of joining the Dems in destroying the only party that has a chance of defeating hillary?
 
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saturneptune

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There is no immpeachable offense here. The main factor is there is not enough time left. Time will take care of Mr Cheney and Mr Bush. Being a milstone around the Republicans is not an immpeachable offense. Would I vote for this clown? Nope. I am quite conservative, but also believe in a quality called honesty and ability to govern.
 
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Baptist in Richmond

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hillclimber1 said:
Good luck with that.:laugh: Is this how you leftists envision, "helping make America great?" More attacks on America, and her leaders?
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Do you really understand the term "leftist?" You use it with such frequency, much like many of the GOP shills on talk radio.

Judging by the fact that you apparently directed this term at KenH, I am inclined to believe that you have no idea what the term means. A "leftist" is not simply someone who doesn't support the POTUS.

Regards,
BiR
 
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saturneptune

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Baptist in Richmond said:
Do you really understand the term "leftist?" You use it with such frequency, much like many of the GOP shills on talk radio.

Judging by the fact that you apparently directed this term at KenH, I am inclined to believe that you have no idea what the term means. A "leftist" is not simply someone who doesn't support the POTUS.

Regards,
BiR
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There are more conservatives disguisted with this POTUS than liberals. After all, the liberals have nothing to feel betrayed about.
 
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Baptist in Richmond

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saturneptune said:
There are more conservatives disguisted with this POTUS than liberals. After all, the liberals have nothing to feel betrayed about.
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Not exactly, but you are pretty close to being right on.....
:thumbs:

Regards, hope all is well,
BiR
 
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hillclimber1

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Baptist in Richmond said:
Do you really understand the term "leftist?" You use it with such frequency, much like many of the GOP shills on talk radio.

Judging by the fact that you apparently directed this term at KenH, I am inclined to believe that you have no idea what the term means. A "leftist" is not simply someone who doesn't support the POTUS.

Regards,
BiR
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American Psychological Association (APA):
leftist. (n.d.). Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Retrieved August 20, 2007, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leftist
Chicago Manual Style (CMS):
leftist. Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, Inc. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leftist (accessed: August 20, 2007).
Modern Language Association (MLA):
"leftist." Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, Inc. 20 Aug. 2007. <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leftist>.
–noun
1. a member of the political Left or a person sympathetic to its views.
–adjective
2. of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or advocated by the political Left.

left·ism also Left·ism Audio Help (lěf'tĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. The ideology of the political left.
2. Belief in or support of the tenets of the political left.

WordNet - Cite This Source
leftist

adjective
1. believing in or supporting tenets of the political left

noun
1. a person who belongs to the political left [syn: collectivist]

WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.
American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition - Cite This Source
leftist

One who holds a left-wing viewpoint; someone who seeks radical social and economic change in the direction of greater equality.

[Chapter:] World Politics


The American Heritage® New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition
Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Yes, I understand its definitions....hill
 
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Rufus_1611

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hillclimber1 said:
American Psychological Association (APA):
leftist. (n.d.). Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Retrieved August 20, 2007, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leftist
Chicago Manual Style (CMS):
leftist. Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, Inc. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leftist (accessed: August 20, 2007).
Modern Language Association (MLA):
"leftist." Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, Inc. 20 Aug. 2007. <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/leftist>.
–noun
1. a member of the political Left or a person sympathetic to its views.
–adjective
2. of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or advocated by the political Left.

left·ism also Left·ism Audio Help (lěf'tĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. The ideology of the political left.
2. Belief in or support of the tenets of the political left.

WordNet - Cite This Source
leftist

adjective
1. believing in or supporting tenets of the political left

noun
1. a person who belongs to the political left [syn: collectivist]

WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.
American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition - Cite This Source
leftist

One who holds a left-wing viewpoint; someone who seeks radical social and economic change in the direction of greater equality.

[Chapter:] World Politics


The American Heritage® New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition
Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Yes, I understand its definitions....hill
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Very good. Since you support an executive that holds to the ideology of the political left, are you ready to come out of the closet and admit you are a leftist?
 
Bro. Curtis

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The border issue certainly could be enough for me. he & his boss have NOT done what they could to protect us from foreign enemies, rather, have given aid & comfort to our enemies, thru their border policies. Giving aid & comfort to enemies is an offense that can get you shot at the stake, during wartime.
 
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Baptist in Richmond

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hillclimber1 said:
Yes, I understand its definitions....hill
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Anybody can simply retrieve a definition. Notice that there is no actual mention of the ideals of the political left. A quick review of your recent posts indicates that you are not really up to speed on the actual "leftist agenda."

Keep researching, hillclimber1: you'll get there,
BiR
 
carpro

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KenH said:
The Congress determines what is a high crime or misdemeanor.
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The political price that would be paid for a specious impeachment is one thinking democrats are not willing to pay.
 
KenH

KenH

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2 Timothy2:1-4 said:
I realize that congress votes on it but high crimes and misdemeanors are based on laws on the books.
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That doesn't stop the House from bringing articles of impeachment and voting on them. The House is the grand jury for the indictment and the Senate is the jury in the trial.
 
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just-want-peace

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Originally Posted by KenH
The Congress determines what is a high crime or misdemeanor.
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KenH said:
That doesn't stop the House from bringing articles of impeachment and voting on them. The House is the grand jury for the indictment and the Senate is the jury in the trial.
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Conflicting statements here; differences highlighted

Big difference in determining "--what IS a high crime--" etc AND whether or not they APPLY to an individual.
 
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hillclimber1

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Rufus_1611 said:
Very good. Since you support an executive that holds to the ideology of the political left, are you ready to come out of the closet and admit you are a leftist?
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My support of The President, is focused on the war against terrorists. I have real problems with a lot of his other stuff.
 
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