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Southern Baptist Traditionalism/Provisionism Thoughts and Comments
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Humble Disciple
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Some people have addictive personalities and should abstain.
or drink Jack Daniels black!
Humble Disciple
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When Leighton Flowers says that the Bible alone is a sufficient revelation to grant people faith, that's begging the question, because how are we to discern that the Bible is God's revelation and not the Koran or the Bhagavad Gita? It's the Holy Spirit which witnesses to us that the Bible is true, which is what Calvinists mean by irresistible grace.
Actually irresistible grace is the doctrine of some men yet it is not biblical. It is philosophical.
MB.
This is the conundrum. When you believe man is unable to come to God on his own because of his depravity.
MB
There is no such thing as irresistible grace. It is true the Holy Spirit works to convict us of our sins yet there is nothing forcible about it.
MB
Humble Disciple
Active Member
Which God? Allah from the Koran, Krishna from the Bhagavad Gita or Jesus from the Bible?
It's the Holy Spirit which bears witness to the elect that Christ is the true God.
John 15:26
But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.
Humble Disciple
Active Member
I can tell you, from my own personal experience, that I'm more incentivized to obey God if i believe that He chose me, as a unique individual, based on His grace alone, before I chose Him. Leighton Flowers never addresses things like this, the positive benefits of Calvinism.
God Chose to Save
Why man cannot and will not be saved apart from election
Joseph Bianchi
Cvbbs.com
it’s $2.00
get it now!!
yes because I said so!!
91 pages and it deals with the supposed universal passages
I said GET IT NOW!!! It’s $2.00
it’s a paperback and the front is pretty
Why man cannot and will not be saved apart from election
Joseph Bianchi
Cvbbs.com
it’s $2.00
get it now!!
yes because I said so!!
91 pages and it deals with the supposed universal passages
I said GET IT NOW!!! It’s $2.00
it’s a paperback and the front is pretty
Humble Disciple
Active Member
I have realized why I disagree with Leighton Flowers so strongly.
He seems to reject the doctrine of prevenient grace while holding too weak a view of God's sovereignty.
I need to learn more about Molinism as a middle ground between God's sovereignty and human free will.
My intent has not been to convince others that Calvinism is true, but only that they should be more tolerant of Calvinists, especially since some of history's greatest missionaries and evangelists have been Calvinists.
Calvinism is just a framework for understanding the text of scripture, and I've never claimed that it's required for salvation. I am just as offended by anti-Calvinists as I am by young earth creationists who attack Hugh Ross for not believing that the earth is less than 10,000 years old.
Just as the Bible doesn't specifically endorse either old earth or young earth creationism, it doesn't specifically endorse either Calvinism or anti-Calvinism. I just wish there were more tolerance for points of view that aren't required for salvation.
He seems to reject the doctrine of prevenient grace while holding too weak a view of God's sovereignty.
I need to learn more about Molinism as a middle ground between God's sovereignty and human free will.
My intent has not been to convince others that Calvinism is true, but only that they should be more tolerant of Calvinists, especially since some of history's greatest missionaries and evangelists have been Calvinists.
Calvinism is just a framework for understanding the text of scripture, and I've never claimed that it's required for salvation. I am just as offended by anti-Calvinists as I am by young earth creationists who attack Hugh Ross for not believing that the earth is less than 10,000 years old.
Just as the Bible doesn't specifically endorse either old earth or young earth creationism, it doesn't specifically endorse either Calvinism or anti-Calvinism. I just wish there were more tolerance for points of view that aren't required for salvation.
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