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Southern Baptists Propose Changing Name...

govteach51

New Member
Spoke to a friend of mine in another Baptist denomination....wonder why the SBC felt they needed to "trademark" the Great Commission for Branding purposes?
 

12strings

Active Member
Ever attended a church where the musical lyrics are flashed on the wall behind the Pastor? Should the power go out those folks wouldn't be able to sing.

As would any church using hymnal in an evening service durring the winter with electric lights...I guess we should all go back to candles!

(way off topic, I know)
 

12strings

Active Member
I think this proposal proves they had the wrong people on this task force. I would have thought the purpose of the task force was to come up with a SIMPLE, EASILY REMEMBERED, IMMEDIATELY IDENTIFIABLE name. Instead, they come up with a convoluted and complicated plan of actually having 2 names!

The recommendation would mean that the legal name of the convention would remain "Southern Baptist Convention" and could be used by any church which wishes to use it. But other SBC churches could call themselves "Great Commission Baptists" if they wish. Draper said the new term would be a "descriptor."

This sounds like something that would come out of the US congress!

It's actually unfortunate because I think this will detract from Bryant Wright's presidency, who I thought otherwise would be very good for us...But this issue is the only thing I've heard him connected to.
 

glfredrick

New Member
You don't understand my point, after being in another Baptist denomination and Cumberland Presbyterian for a while, they too believed in the "Great Commission."
I don't think we are the only Baptists who spread the word. ( I know we are not.) The term invokes others are not preaching the word.

Only if that is what you bring to the table...

It doesn't actually say or even suggest that at face value, does it?

And, again, why would ANYONE wish for anything other for the SBC?

Would you have them NOT doing the GC? Or just upset that they thought of it first? :laugh:
 

glfredrick

New Member
I think this proposal proves they had the wrong people on this task force. I would have thought the purpose of the task force was to come up with a SIMPLE, EASILY REMEMBERED, IMMEDIATELY IDENTIFIABLE name. Instead, they come up with a convoluted and complicated plan of actually having 2 names!



This sounds like something that would come out of the US congress!

It's actually unfortunate because I think this will detract from Bryant Wright's presidency, who I thought otherwise would be very good for us...But this issue is the only thing I've heard him connected to.

The dynamics of the issue make it difficult to actually change the name, which is why it has not yet been changed even though it has come up for a vote or investigation over 20 times since 1903. With examination of over 800 potential new names -- and we have some very creative people out there who would have suggested potential monikers -- that none was chosen speaks only to the ultimate difficulty, not the members of the panel or the rationale behind the issues.
 

govteach51

New Member
Only if that is what you bring to the table...

It doesn't actually say or even suggest that at face value, does it?

And, again, why would ANYONE wish for anything other for the SBC?

Would you have them NOT doing the GC? Or just upset that they thought of it first? :laugh:

My trouble is are they going to get a registered trademark on something all churches do...or should... Are they going to sue a non-SBC church if they put on their sign that they too teach the Great Commission? Don't be so sure it won't happen.....BTW: I am SBC.
 

glfredrick

New Member
My trouble is are they going to get a registered trademark on something all churches do...or should... Are they going to sue a non-SBC church if they put on their sign that they too teach the Great Commission? Don't be so sure it won't happen.....BTW: I am SBC.

Are they going to get a trademark? I had not yet heard that.
 

Ed B

Member
If we must change how about something simple and less pretentious such as the "Evangelical Baptist Convention"?

How about we buy the rights to the name "Missionary Baptists"? Lottie Moon would approve.
 

govteach51

New Member
If we must change how about something simple and less pretentious such as the "Evangelical Baptist Convention"?

How about we buy the rights to the name "Missionary Baptists"? Lottie Moon would approve.
But Annie Armstrong wouldn't....:laugh:
 

Van

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
A name like New Covenant Convention, NCC, seems neutral, and yet conveys the fire in the belly of those dying all over the world to make disciples. But they really need to choose who Christ died for, because a house divided...
 

mandym

New Member
Some folks would criticize a pot of gold in a famine. There is no harm being done here. Move on. Good golly miss molly
 

govteach51

New Member
So what should be discussed? What wrong has been done?


It is a poor choice. It implies that the SBC is the only "Great Commission Baptists." It will trademark the name, and Great Commission is something that needs to be available to all Christians.
The entire name is awful it really is. It is not going to draw any more people in. People who don't know are going to look at "Great Commission" and thing they are some sort of strict sect.
There were hundreds of names, and this is the best they can come up with...please, go back to the drawing board.
 

mandym

New Member
It is a poor choice. It implies that the SBC is the only "Great Commission Baptists." It will trademark the name, and Great Commission is something that needs to be available to all Christians.

It implies what? I don't even come close to understanding the logic that draws that conclusion.

The entire name is awful it really is. It is not going to draw any more people in.

That may be true but nothing worth criticizing.

People who don't know are going to look at "Great Commission" and thing they are some sort of strict sect.

There is that logic again.

There were hundreds of names, and this is the best they can come up with...please, go back to the drawing board.

Very few will support such a name change and this by line is just that. More like a mission statement. See it for what it is and relax.
 

gb93433

Active Member
Site Supporter
Huh?

Where'd you learn that, SBTS?
I thought the split was over slavery. I am still unable to understand how a group could possibly support stealing people against their will with scripture. I wonder if it had anything to do with economics?
 

mandym

New Member
I thought the split was over slavery. I am still unable to understand how a group could possibly support stealing people against their will with scripture. I wonder if it had anything to do with economics?

I have to give you credit. You waited 57 posts to criticize the convention. Nice job of patients.
 

govteach51

New Member
To Mandym

1. I can see someone down the road suing a non-Baptist church over trademark infringement.
2. Purpose of the so called name change is to bring people in to the church, not keep them out.
3. Trust me, people will see Great Commission as something else. Ask the average person on the street what it is, and they won't know. You want people in the church, not scare them away.
4. Don't be telling me to relax. This is pretty important. Maybe you don't think so, but it is....
 

mandym

New Member
3. Trust me, people will see Great Commission as something else. Ask the average person on the street what it is, and they won't know. You want people in the church, not scare them away.

People on the street hardly ever see the name Southern Baptist convention. It will do nothing to scare anyone away. And there will be no law suit.
 
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