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Spiritual death. What exactly is it?

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Iconoclast

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Quoting scripture is not inappropriate language....

no one said anything about anyones salvation....

you" infer" many things .....making it up as you go along......

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You said Cals worship a God who is a monster.....that was your statement.
 
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DHK said:
You have said this many times, perhaps countless. It is the standard Calvinist position. What was my position?
Adam, being a dead person, carried on a conversation with God.

And you denied this, and want me to repent?? No, not at all.

Adam was spiritually dead when he sinned, just as you described above here:
https://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2252251&postcount=63

He was separated from God, dead in his sin. "Sinners are in darkness having no Light within them and Light has no fellowship with Light...None of us in our fallen state had the ability, the wherewithal to keep his commands, so by our deeds, we hated him." (your words) This would apply to Adam who lost his fellowship with God, and by God's definition died, the day he ate of that fruit.
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Now you are starting to get my dander up, monsieur. I have never said that God can not converse with the spiritually dead. He spoke with satan and he is as spiritually dead as anyone can be. He spoke with Adam and Eve, and also Cain. God even spoke and brought a four days dead man out of his tomb.

Adam did 'hate' God by his deeds. If you love me, keep My commands. Did Adam keep God's one command? No.

If we do not keep His commands, we do not love Him. Now, I know that you will now deflect and go into the fact that every one of us post-salvation sins, so we do not love Him. So have at it.
 
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SaggyWoman

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I do not usually get involved in this forum, but I am this minute. I do not feel that you are staying on OP. Please do so and not attack. Thanks.

Closing thread.
 
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