Spurgeon's own summation

[quantumfaith]

Just wanted to point out this statement for discussion, as I've seen it used on here several times, that God selects some special people but not all. I disagree, just a couple of points:
(1) Were the disciples not just ordinary guys who did extraordinary things through God's power.
(2) I may not have been called to be a Billy Graham, or an Adrian Rogers, or Spurgeon, but God called me to be a Thousand Hills, and I'm to bloom where I am planted however small or large it is, however menial or grand it is. I'm still a part of his grand plan. "For Such a Time as This". Its like a car, I may not be a flashy chrome bumper or a hood ornament, but just a simple nut and bolt. But if that piece is missing its not complete, the whole won't function or work like its designed to.

Thousand Hills, I don't think that is quite what I was suggesting, but your point is taken.

 

[J.D.]

Regarding Total Depravity and Irresistible Grace:
When you say, "Can God make me become a Christian?" I tell you yes, for herein rests the power of the gospel. It does not ask your consent; but it gets it. It does not say, "Will you have it?" but it makes you willing in the day of God's power....The gospel wants not your consent, it gets it. It knocks the enmity out of your heart. You say, I do not want to be saved; Christ says you shall be. He makes our will turn round, and then you cry,"'Lord save, or I perish!

Now friends, "Do you agree with this statement"?

Agree!


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[Earth Wind and Fire]

I sure don't. I agree with Winman that sin made me hate myself. God used my sinful lifestyle and the guilt that it caused to bring me to Jesus. I could not bear the weight of it anymore.


Maybe if you miss your sin, you haven't really repented.

Depends if you believe in a sin nature at all....but you will have to admit that nobody's perfect...."YET" (besides Christ).:godisgood:

 

[Amy.G]

Depends if you believe in a sin nature at all....but you will have to admit that nobody's perfect...."YET" (besides Christ).:godisgood:

Of course we're not perfect. I never suggested that. But as a Christian with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, my sin sickens me. I don't think about it as fun at all. Knowing my sin put Jesus on the cross makes me realize how disgusting it is. Knowing that I grieve God when I sin, makes me ashamed.
I don't look at sin anymore and think of it as fun.

 

[freeatlast]

Of course we're not perfect. I never suggested that. But as a Christian with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, my sin sickens me. I don't think about it as fun at all. Knowing my sin put Jesus on the cross makes me realize how disgusting it is. Knowing that I grieve God when I sin, makes me ashamed.
I don't look at sin anymore and think of it as fun.

Agreed! :thumbsup:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Remember the Drug Pusher that I mentioned before, well he was baptized last year & he is still a Drug Pusher! Ive tried to contact him in an effort to discuss his sinning but he just ignores me or laughs at me for being a concerned Christian. Considering the fact he makes allot of money, many possessions & has never been incarcerated, causes me to question things is all.

From my own position, I couldn't bring myself to being like that.

 

[Amy.G]

Remember the Drug Pusher that I mentioned before, well he was baptized last year & he is still a Drug Pusher! Ive tried to contact him in an effort to discuss his sinning but he just ignores me or laughs at me for being a concerned Christian. Considering the fact he makes allot of money, many possessions & has never been incarcerated, causes me to question things is all.

From my own position, I couldn't bring myself to being like that.

Sounds like all he got was wet.

 

[freeatlast]

Remember the Drug Pusher that I mentioned before, well he was baptized last year & he is still a Drug Pusher! Ive tried to contact him in an effort to discuss his sinning but he just ignores me or laughs at me for being a concerned Christian. Considering the fact he makes allot of money, many possessions & has never been incarcerated, causes me to question things is all.

From my own position, I couldn't bring myself to being like that.

Neither can any believer. He needs to get saved and since you know he is breaking the law you need to turn him in if you are following the Lord.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Neither can any believer. He needs to get saved and since you know he is breaking the law you need to turn him in if you are following the Lord.

Oh yea....and what evidence would I use to convict him?

 

[freeatlast]

Oh yea....and what evidence would I use to convict him?

You don't need any and it is not your job to convict him. That is why we have juries. Just make the call and let them know you know this guy is dealing drugs. It is the law inforcement's job to gather evidence not yours.