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[Astralis]

About Tyndale:

Within the first generation of Protestantism, it had split into no fewer than four major sects, who persecuted each other just as feircely as they did Catholics. And take a look at Catholic treatment in England under Queen Elizabeth and King James.

Tyndale's Bible was false and corrupt, and if people wanted to burn it (individual people, not the "Church") then that's their right. But the Church definitely did not burn every Bible it could find. This is the same period that the Catholic Church produced its most famous English translation of the Scriptures, the Douay-Rheims version (which had some influence on the KJV because the NT of this version was published in 1582 [~]). And what of all those translations in other languages that the Church was mass-producing with the new printing technology?

If it were not for the devout efforts of the Catholic Church for the 1500 years prior to printing, we would know nothing of the Bible today. Martin Luther himself admitted to that. A good read of Henry Graham's "Where We Got the Bible" would put an end to this argument.

[ August 31, 2002, 05:30 PM: Message edited by: Astralis ]

 

[GraceSaves]

Originally posted by Dualhunter:
The leaders of the Catholic church had no problem with him being burned as they did not want the laity to have access to the scriptures. When the majesterium was not directly involved in the attrocities they were indirectly involved simply because they did nothing to prevent it nor did they discipline those who were directly involved.

This goes against what you stand for, and can't logically be a valid point in your argument. You don't want the Catholic Church to have power to judge people, but yet you expected them to "prevent it [or] displine those who were directly involved." Discipline by what means? If someone is committing horrible acts, and you need to stop them, you either imprison them or put them to death. But you don't want the Church to have that power. And yet you wish they'd execute such power. It's circular reasoning. Either the Church is involved or it isn't. They can't be involved sometimes (when the situation is for your belief's good) but not (when it's against your belief).

ALSO, please show me some evidence where the Catholic Church said something along the lines of "we have no problem with you burning him." Where is the Church's OFFICIAL approval? If you have it, I'll back down and apologize. If not, then don't make the assertion.

[ August 31, 2002, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: GraceSaves ]