STOP THE ACLU

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Also, can you answer Johnv, or do you just love to cut and paste someone else's writings.

Edited to add: Typing in all caps is the net equivalent of SCREAMING AT SOMEONE! Turn down the caps.

[ September 07, 2005, 07:58 PM: Message edited by: LadyEagle ]

 

FC, again, quit yelling. It is also true that the person who cannot address facts and answer questions, but instead resorts to name calling and ad hominem attacks has no basis for dialog.

You have been addressed in a respectful manner. Please accord others the same respect. Ranting will just get you ignored, or perhaps banned.

It is also bad netiquette to open several threads on the same topic.

 

Yes.

I have stated clearly that I have no love the ACLU.

What lie have I accepted, and where is the post where I did so?

The only "agenda" I've addressed is that a falsehood was stated about the ACLU founder. While that falsehood was posted innocently and I hold no grudge agaisnt the poster, I corrected that falsehood. Are you of the opinion that I should have let the falsehood remain?

My conclusion is that as Christians, we should always strive to be accurate in our facts. Poor facts make for poor Christian witness.

So do you beleive it's okay for a Christian to promote a falsehood, even if that falsehood is about an enemy? Or do you believe that we are to refrain from falsehoods regardless of the object of that falsehood?

Answer my question please. If you are unable to, then kindlyt retract your accusations against me.

 

I have deleted several personal attacks. Please debate the issue and attack the issue, but please do not attack each other - it is against the BB rules. And please refrain from typing in all caps - it is bad board etiquette - considered screaming, and very difficult for the aged and infirm (like me), to read.

Lady Eagle,
Moderator

Any further personal attacks and this thread will be closed. Thank you for your cooperation.

 

It is my personal opinion that the liberal left including the ACLU has in mind the destruction of this country as it was constituted, a Constitutional Republic. I stated that opinion in an earlier post. I have no doubt that I could find ample evidence if I wanted to spend the time. For the naive out there four simple examples are

1. their support of abortion on demand,
2. their undying hostility to the Christian Faith,
3. their support of the militant homosexual agenda including the NAMBLA, and
4. their hostility to a strict constructionist interpretation of the Constitution.

Now if anyone on this Forum is ignorant of the above facts then they need to be educated.

Furthermore, when we come on this Forum we do not give up the right to express our opinion. To insinuate or state that these opinions are falsehoods because you disagree with them is bigotry at its worst.

 

My personal opinion is in agreement with your personal opinion, Old Regular. Imagine that.

 

I will post a quote from another thread that I made, since I think to characterize the ACLU as anti-Christian is false. However, consider the following, and they are not unique. There are many more cases in which the ACLU defends the rights of Christians.

I cannot believe the above cases would be taken up by an "anti-Christian" organization.

 

OR, and LE, I'm sure you will agree that none of my posts on this thread argue any of those four points, don't you agree? In fact, I've been clear about haveing no love of the ACLU.

Unfortunately, a falsehood was stated about the ACLU founder. While that falsehood was posted innocently and I hold no grudge against the poster, I corrected that falsehood. I'm sure we're all in agreement that falsehoods regardless of the object of that falsehood should be avoided by Christians, as it damages our witness?

 

I am working on it!

 

While I personally do think that the object of many ACLU actions have been at Christian targets, the cases that Magnetic Poles cites cannot be denied either.

 

Agreed. And imagine what these personal attacks to fellow members on the BB do to damage our witness. Just a thought.

It's not who wins or loses, it's how you play the game.

 

FC, you are rambling. Ever read what Jesus said about a house divided against itself?

The ACLU has taken cases I disagree with, but they serve to watch out for the rights of everyone. For anyone to be free, even those ideas we find repugnant must be protected. It is not popular speech that needs protection, rather it is speech that some find objectionable (from whatever end of the spectrum) that must be protected to insure liberty and justice for all.

 

The altitude has gotten to you! Come back to earth!

 

The ACLU doesn't protect my speech. But the Constitution does.

The ACLU would like to silence me. So would People for the American Way. Same difference.

 

I am for any organization that can reveal the foolishness and nonsense of folks like freedom's cause!

It is too bad that so many baptists are giving away the seperation of church and state.

 

That's exactly what an "anti-Christian" organization would do.

Why does Satan quote scripture so effectively?

To hide his real agenda. Ditto the aclu.

 

How is the ACLU against the US Constitution when it is generally on the side of the Constitution?

The courts often do decide that the ACLU was correct in its defense of civil liberties. As appealing as it may be, we can't say that civil liberties belong only to the "deserving" when our Constitution says they are for all. If you pick and choose who gets rights, pretty soon only the strongest and most corrupt will have them.