Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

[Van]

Once again we see yet another Calvinist effort to rewrite scripture to alter it in accordance with the fiction of Calvinism.

Who said 2 Thessalonians 2:13 says we are chosen "because of our faith?" That would make salvation dependent upon the person that wills to be saved, and therefore contrary to Romans 9:16. But that is the viewpoint, the strawman argument, hoisted in deceit.

The verse is a compound sentence, with subjects, verbs, direct and indirect objects. There is no separate thought.

We should always give thanks to God for you as beloved by the Lord.
Subject, =We; Verb = should give thanks, direct object = God; indirect object for you the beloved.
We should give thanks to God for you as our siblings in Christ!
Why?
Because God has chosen you. Subject = God; Verb = has chosen; direct object = you.
The remaining phrases are indirect objects describing aspects of the action upon the recipient.

When was the action of choosing performed? From the beginning of the New Covenant
What was the purpose of the action? For salvation
What were the instrumental factors? Election by means of transferring the person from the realm of darkness into Christ. Basis of the choice was God crediting the faith of the individual as righteousness.

Thus we were NOT saved because of our faith, our faith only allowed God to credit it or not. Our faith did not deserve salvation or merit salvation, the accreditation was a act of mercy and grace. Salvation does NOT depend upon the person who wills, but upon God who has mercy.

 

[canadyjd]

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Who said 2 Thessalonians 2:13 says we are chosen "because of our faith?"

@Van said it in post #123 of his thread “when were we chosen”

Peace to you

 

[Van]

@Van said it in post #123 of his thread “when were we chosen”

Peace to you

Yet another post asking a question rather than addressing the topic. Was an answer to the question, who said "we are chosen because of our faith" provided? Nope.

 

[Van]

Interpretive Translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:13.
We should give thanks to God for you as our siblings in Christ! Because God has chosen you,from the beginning of the New Covenant, for salvation, by the means of setting you apart in Christ based on crediting your faith as righteousness.

It was for this election that God invited you by means of our gospel that you might obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. That glory is the splendour of the Righteousness of Christ! Many are invited but few are chosen.

 

[canadyjd]

Yet another post asking a question rather than addressing the topic. Was an answer to the question, who said "we are chosen because of our faith" provided? Nope.

You asked, “who said we are chosen because of our faith”, and laid out why that’s not true.

I answered your question directly… you said it in your previous thread.

It is impossible to dialog with you. You don’t even know what you’ve said before and claim personal attacks when your own words are repeated back to you

All done @Van.

Peace to you

 

[Van]

You asked, “who said we are chosen because of our faith”, and laid out why that’s not true.

I answered your question directly… you said it in your previous thread.

It is impossible to dialog with you. You don’t even know what you’ve said before and claim personal attacks when your own words are repeated back to you

All done @Van.

Peace to you

I can only hope your are willing to stop with all your false claims and diversionary tactics to derail discussion of scripture.

Interpretive Translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:13.
We should give thanks to God for you as our siblings in Christ! Because God has chosen you,from the beginning of the New Covenant, for salvation, by the means of setting you apart in Christ based on crediting your faith as righteousness.

It was for this election that God invited you by means of our gospel that you might obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. That glory is the splendour of the Righteousness of Christ! Many are invited but few are chosen.