Study Finds Coming Economic Crisis Could Lead to 831,600 Suicides

[Calminian]

And here we go. Get ready for naysaying, poisoning the well, and other leftist tactics. Someone alert Facebook so they can ban this information.


Government Sanctioned Suicide: Study Finds Coming Economic Crisis Could Lead to 831,600 Suicides – Or 13 Times the Number of Coronavirus Deaths

 

[Scott Downey]

And here we go. Get ready for naysaying, poisoning the well, and other leftist tactics. Someone alert Facebook so they can ban this information.


Government Sanctioned Suicide: Study Finds Coming Economic Crisis Could Lead to 831,600 Suicides – Or 13 Times the Number of Coronavirus Deaths

They'll blame it all on Trump. Now the message from the left is he did not do enough, but back then they complained he was racist against China for shutting down travel to China. The left loves China because their authoritarian socialist government philosophy fits in well with their ideals. They are a match made in hell.

 

[Calminian]

They'll blame it all on Trump. Now the message from the left is he did not do enough, but back then they complained he was racist against China for shutting down travel to China. The left loves China because their authoritarian socialist government philosophy fits in well with their ideals. They are a match made in hell.

We'll see what happens. Trump has a lot of things to balance. The good news is, he understands the danger of crashing the economy. No way he's going to let that happen. The problem of course is, many dems have been praying for a bad economy. They will fight to keep things closed for as long as possible.

 

[InTheLight]

No, no, no, and no.

In 2017 47,173 people died via suicide in the United States. That's a rate of 14.3 per 100,000.

The article claims that a 1% increase in the unemployment rate would add approximately 21 additional suicides per 100,000 people.

So the rate would go from 14.3 per 100,000 to 35.3 per 100,000 if the unemployment rate went up 1%.

Similarly, if the unemployment rate went up another 2%, another 42 additional suicides per 100,000 people would occur.
This would put the suicide rate at 46.3 per 100,000.

And so on and so forth until we get to 831,600 suicides at an unemployment rate of 15%, or a suicide rate of 252 per 100,000.

Not going to happen GatewayPundit.com.

What happened in 2008-2010 when the unemployment rate went from 7.3% and spiked at 10%? The suicide rate went from 11.6 per 100,000 to 12.1 per 100,000. But according to the study in the GatewayPundit that is an increase in the unemployment rate of 2.7%. We should have seen an increase in the rate from 11.6 suicides per 100,000 to 56.7 suicides per 100,000.

Utter trash.

 

[Calminian]

No, no, no, and no.

In 2017 47,173 people died via suicide in the United States. That's a rate of 14.3 per 100,000.

The article claims that a 1% increase in the unemployment rate would add approximately 21 additional suicides per 100,000 people.

So the rate would go from 14.3 per 100,000 to 35.3 per 100,000 if the unemployment rate went up 1%.

Similarly, if the unemployment rate went up another 2%, another 42 additional suicides per 100,000 people would occur.
This would put the suicide rate at 46.3 per 100,000.

And so on and so forth until we get to 831,600 suicides at an unemployment rate of 15%, or a suicide rate of 252 per 100,000.

Not going to happen GatewayPundit.com.

What happened in 2008-2010 when the unemployment rate went from 7.3% and spiked at 10%? The suicide rate went from 11.6 per 100,000 to 12.1 per 100,000. But according to the study in the GatewayPundit that is an increase in the unemployment rate of 2.7%. We should have seen an increase in the rate from 11.6 suicides per 100,000 to 56.7 suicides per 100,000.

Utter trash.

Thank you right on cue.

So projections from one study by experts is trashed by an internet forum "expert". Hmmm. I guess we should listen to all internet forum "experts".

 

[Calminian]

Meanwhile,

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The anti-Trumpers are getting excited. They're been praying for this.

 

[InTheLight]

Thank you right on cue.

So projections from one study by experts is trashed by an internet forum "expert". Hmmm. I guess we should listen to all internet forum "experts".

No, projections from a 2014 study based on 1974 data was checked with mathematics and historical data and found to be utterly false.

Any competent 14 year old could have done the same thing. But I guess they have 10 year olds running GP.

Why don't stop attacking me and you run the numbers yourself. Look up what happened to the suicide rate in 2008-2010. Look it up in 1980-1982. Then get back to us with your doom and gloom predictions. Did it go up 21 suicides per 100,000 with each increase in a 1% unemployment rate?

 

[Calminian]

No, projections from a 2014 study based on 1974 data was checked with mathematics and historical data and found to be utterly false.

Any competent 14 year old could have done the same thing. But I guess they have 10 year olds running GP.

Why don't stop attacking me and you run the numbers yourself. Look up what happened to the suicide rate in 2008-2010. Look it up in 1980-1982. Then get back to us with your doom and gloom predictions. Did it go up 21 suicides per 100,000 with each increase in a 1% unemployment rate?

I have no idea what gobbledygook you're clamoring about. You defend a guy touting a 6% kill rate, then trash an article simply because you don't like the website.

Meanwhile, Nancy is blocking the small business rescue.

Nancy Pelosi Clueless About 15 House Democrats Calling for Immediately Funding Small Business Aid
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...lling-immediately-funding-small-business-aid/
‘I don’t know who’s saying that’

Yeah, nothing to be worried about. Just burry your head in the sand like you did in 2016.

 

[InTheLight]

I have no idea what gobbledygook you're clamoring about.

It's so, so simple.

The article claims there will be a 21 more suicides per 100,000 people if the unemployment rate moves up by 1%.

The suicide rate in 2008 was 11.6 per 100,000. The unemployment rate went up 2.7% from 2008 to 2010. Therefore, according to the article you posted the suicide rate should have gone up by 56.7 per 100,0000. Yet we know the suicide rate only went up from 11.6 to 12.1 per 100,000.

Your article is laughable trash.

 

[Calminian]

It's so, so simple.

The article claims there will be a 21 more suicides per 100,000 people if the unemployment rate moves up by 1%.

The suicide rate in 2008 was 11.6 per 100,000. The unemployment rate went up 2.7% from 2008 to 2010. Therefore, according to the article you posted the suicide rate should have gone up by 56.7 per 100,0000. Yet we know the suicide rate only went up from 11.6 to 12.1 per 100,000.

Your article is laughable trash.

Either you're confused or really deceptive. Looks to me you're obfuscating to the best of your ability.

The US unemployment rate will rise to 15% from 3% due to the current economic shutdown in place across the country.

A study by Goldman Sachs in the paper this morning suggests unemployment will be soar to 15% from about 3% this quarter. That means from 27 million minimum to 67 million maximum will lose their jobs in the next three months.​

It's talking about a 12% increase in unemployment. We'll never know the exact effects, could be more or less than the study. Honestly, what in the world are you talking about? You're really so ingrained in your view, you can't have a little compassion for what that's going to do to many people in the US, let alone the world?

My guess is, you personally, probably won't feel too much pain from this. So you can sit back try to shame others that are going to feel a lot of pain.

 

[InTheLight]

Either you're confused or really deceptive. Looks to me you're obfuscating to the best of your ability.

The US unemployment rate will rise to 15% from 3% due to the current economic shutdown in place across the country.

A study by Goldman Sachs in the paper this morning suggests unemployment will be soar to 15% from about 3% this quarter. That means from 27 million minimum to 67 million maximum will lose their jobs in the next three months.​

It's talking about a 12% increase in unemployment. Honestly, what in the world are you talking about? You're really so ingrained in your view, you can't have a little compassion for what that's going to do to many people in the US, let alone the world?

Looks like you didn't read the article. Maybe you were asleep when you posted the thread title.

Anyway, here is the meat of the article you posted:

According to this one study, at “1% increase in the annual unemployment rate, approximately 21 additional suicides per 100,000 of the population can be expected.” If that’s correct, each 1% increase in the unemployment rate in the U.S., with a 330 million population, will lead to 69,300 additional suicides.

Based on the current predictions, those 12 percentage points could lead to an estimated 831,600 US suicides.

This is the laughable trash I am talking about. You posted it. Own it.

 

[Calminian]

Looks like you didn't read the article. Maybe you were asleep when you posted the thread title.

Anyway, here is the meat of the article you posted:



This is the laughable trash I am talking about. You posted it. Own it.

LOL! I do own it. Based on the study of one time period, the article makes a projection. You then cherry picked another period where the projection is different, and a little better. The fact is, it may be better or it may be worse than the articles projection.

Who's willing to take that chance? You are, because you don't think this will impact you either way. If this was hitting you closer to home, you'd be singing a different tune.

BTW, look how honestly, the article qualifies its argument.

According to this one study, at “1% increase in the annual unemployment rate, approximately 21 additional suicides per 100,000 of the population can be expected.” If that’s correct, each 1% increase in the unemployment rate in the U.S., with a 330 million population, will lead to 69,300 additional suicides.​

You didn't bother to do that.

 

[InTheLight]

LOL! I do own it. Based on the study of one time period, the article makes a projection. You then cherry picked another period where the projection is different, and a little better. The fact is, it may be better or it may be worse than the articles projection.

I did not cherry pick a projection. I used historical, factual data.

The suicide rate in 2017 was 14.3 per 100,000. The unemployment rate in 2017 was 4.1%.

Your article claims the suicide rate will go up 21 suicides per 100,000 people for every 1% increase in the unemployment rate.

So, under your scenario, if the unemployment rate goes up 12% the number of suicides will go up 252 per 100,000.

Just simply is not going to happen.

 

[InTheLight]

Here is a chart of the historical suicide rate and what the GatewayPundit predicts will happen if the unemployment rate spikes to 15% in 2020.

 

[Calminian]

I did not cherry pick a projection. I used historical, factual data.

Yes, from one time period. That's called cherry picking. It's a dishonest tactic. The article qualified its argument. You did not.

 

[InTheLight]

Yes, from one time period. That's called cherry picking. It's a dishonest tactic. The article qualified its argument. You did not.

Yes, I used data from the most previous time the unemployment went up rapidly. That is the exact scenario being discussed.

I would like to think you are not this dense, but you are really making me question my assumption.

 

[Calminian]

Yes, I used data from the most previous time the unemployment went up rapidly. That is the exact scenario being discussed.

I would like to think you are not this dense, but you are really making me question my assumption.

It's a single time in history you cherry picked that went against the findings of the study.

 

[InTheLight]

It's a single time in history you cherry picked that went against the findings of the study.

There were no "findings" in the study. It was all conjecture.

According to this one study, at “1% increase in the annual unemployment rate, approximately 21 additional suicides per 100,000 of the population can be expected.”

 

[Calminian]

There were no "findings" in the study. It was all conjecture.

According to this one study, at “1% increase in the annual unemployment rate, approximately 21 additional suicides per 100,000 of the population can be expected.”

It's a projection of the future based on a study, based on allowing the unemployment rate to skyrocket and and stay high. I think it's a fairly good guess. I don't know that we've ever seen an actual global depression. When you take into account technology and the dangerous drugs we have today, it may even be worse. We have people that want this shutdown to continue until 2021. That would be devastating to our country and the world.

The 6% claim, in contrast, is a lie about the present.

 

[church mouse guy]

It's a single time in history you cherry picked that went against the findings of the study.

That's his style.