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MB, I am NOT "arguing" with you. You seem to have an agenda to "poo poo" the catholics...I get it, you don't agree with them on much (or anything) welcome to the club. I too have serious disagreement with them.

Also keep in mind....other evangelical faiths (denominations ) are not without fault either. Liars....aren't we all at some time or another, perhaps you have never lied.

 

Yes I have lied but I think you misunderstand the point of my feelings. It is one thing to tell a lie and quite another when that's all there is but lies. I've never met anyone who hasn't lied and if they claim they haven't they are most like lying right then.

You can say maybe they don't know any better but that does not convince me they have any of the righteousness they claim they have. They have the same opportunity to read the truth in scripture but Catholics don't go by scripture they go by there priest who again lie and tell there congregation they speak for God.
The RCC has always been corrupt and they always will be. A rotten tree is always rotten it can't heal it's self.
MB

 

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Thank you for the history lesson, the true and accurate history.

 

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CBT is attempting to say that AIDS is no more prominent in the population because of wholesale immorality. He is a liar. Leftists exalt godlessness, and part of that exaltation is a marginalization of the judgments on immorality and the effectiveness of biblical morality in staying certain epidemics.

That AIDS explodes among the defining activities of homosexuality is a fact of science suppressed by a Leftist political agenda.

"In the early 1980s, the AIDS epidemic was still confined to three cities with large homosexual communities. Aggressive public health methods might have prevented the epidemic’s outward spread. But every effort to take normal precautionary measures was thwarted in turn by the political juggernaut which the gay liberation movement had managed to create. Under intense pressure from gay activists, for example, the director of public health of the City of San Francisco refused to close bathhouses, maintaining that they were valuable centers of “education” about AIDS, even though their only purpose was to facilitate anonymous, promiscuous sex."

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=276
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See also:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/horowitz061201.asp

 

So, since we must take into account the whole of scripture...how do you reconcile the two (harshness & Gentleness)? How do you biblically decide when one approach is called for, or, how do you go about seasoning your speech with grace?

And you would say this is the ancient equivalent, in content, tone, & perceived seriousness at "shut up" ?

So, If my entire response to this post of yours consisted of: "Hey moron, study 1 Timothy or Shut up!" You, and those others reading, (since according to you, I'm not really responding for your sake, but to prevent others from saying the same things, lest they get told to shut up too) would perceive this as a serious and solomn rebuke to reconsider the things about which you speak?

 

That is an excellent summary of the need for history and study of Scripture in general. All I can do with the Greek and Hebrew is look up the meanings and let the Lord give me what He is trying to say. I have spent lots of time in personal study, Bible studies, and making notes in my Bible during sermons and Sunday School. Having never been to a seminary or formal class, I realize there is probably a great disadvantage over my background.

However, some of the posts I see from pastors and those with advanced degrees sometimes makes me wonder. This has been mentioned before, but if some of the posts that appear here were repeated to these individual's congregation, I doubt some of them would be in office very long.

 

I understand your point. And no, I was not referring to you in this group I was talking about. Yes, Spurgeon was brilliant, and wish we had more of them today. Sometimes I get the feeling that some who let everyone know what degrees they have and where they studied are not letting the Scripture speak to them, but repeating the doctrine taught to them in seminary.

You are correct on the other point, pastors have the right to debate as vigorously as we do. However, debating a point is one thing, but some of the names that come out of these posts from people leading NT churches amazes me. I think the higher ones level of calling, the more responsibility one has to stick to the theological point and omit the names.

 

Luke, is this what you mean by "vociferous reading of books of very learned men"?

"I learned my theology, from which I have never swerved, from an old woman who was a cook in the house where I was an usher. She could talk about the deep things of God and as I sat and heard what she had to say, as an aged Christian, of what the Lord had done for her, I learned more from her instruction than from anybody I have ever met with since!" —Charles Spurgeon, "The Whole Machinery of Salvation", August 18, 1889

 

LOL I guess that is a yes?



Look what popped up this morning at the Calvinist 'Gospel Coalition' site:

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2013/02/08/factchecker

 

Deuteronomy 27:18
“Cursed is anyone who leads the blind astray on the road.”Then all the people shall say, “Amen!”

Matthew 15:14
Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

John 3:10
“You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?

James 3:1
Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.


Jesus had to rebuke many teachers. They are leading sheep. A sheep knows nothing but to follow, we as teachers are to be example's.

If teacher's can't even understand to love our enemies, do you really think they can comprehend anything else the scripture teaches.

Jesus main problem is teachers has it changed? Jesus didn't rebuke the sinner, the young rich ruler a sheep. Jesus didn't say you stupid sinner, you can't obey the law. Jesus showed Him the way sell your things, get rid of what ever is holding you back from following me and follow me. We as teachers are to follow Christ to be an example to those who don't know Him to point to Christ. Most people are sheep following someone, one day they might be a leader of what they are following.

Hebrews 5 :
Warning Against Falling Away

11 We have much to say about this, but it is hard to make it clear to you because you no longer try to understand. 12 In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13 Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. 14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.