SaggyWoman
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Rooster, I would agree with you on that, not to marry someone who I am not willing to submit to and trust his leadership.
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Submissiveness
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joyfulkeeperathome
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Rooster, while I agree with you that it is the wife's responsibility before God to be submissive in all areas (as long as they are not in direct defiance to God which this hypothetical situation is not a sin). However, I do have to tell you that the Bible does command us as wives to love our husbands. It is in Titus. Chapter 2 is talking about what the aged women are to teach the younger women. I'll pick up in verse 4. "That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children." Right there it does command us to love our husbands!!! In the next verse it tells us to be obedient to our husbands. So, we have to do both (which I gladly do most days....I'm not perfect, but I try to be a submissive wife.)
So, anyway, this is how I see it from the Bible.....
So, anyway, this is how I see it from the Bible.....
James_Newman
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Amen, sister!
Terry_Herrington
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Yes, she would be disobeying her husband, and she would be wrong.
Yes
Terry_Herrington
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It is called being the head of the house.
I Am Blessed 24
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If a man loves his wife the way Christ loves the church (as he is commanded to do in Ephesians) - he will not make unreasonable requests...
Me thinks voting is not the ONLY issue the OP has in his marriage...
My husband would not even entertain the thought of telling (or even asking) me not to vote. We, as Christians (both male and female) need to have a say in who runs our country!
A wife is to be 100% submisive to her husband in all decisions that are to be made.
Ephesians 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
A husband is to suppose to know his wifes needs and if hes doing he's job right she won't have a problem following him most of the time if he's made good decisions in the past.But their will be time's when she will have a problem submiting to him & then she has to take to the Lord for help to do so.
1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
Ephesians 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
A husband is to suppose to know his wifes needs and if hes doing he's job right she won't have a problem following him most of the time if he's made good decisions in the past.But their will be time's when she will have a problem submiting to him & then she has to take to the Lord for help to do so.
1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
I agree with you, Sue. If a man loves his wife, he won't order her not to vote just because he doesn't like the candidates himself. After all, one or the other is going to be elected whether he votes or not. He might ask her to consider not exercising her right to vote based on his feelings, but he is never to be tyrannical. After all, the Head of the House should rule with love. If she feels strongly about voting, I think she has the right to do that.
My Dad would never let my mother vote simply because he felt she would vote for the "other" candidate and (in his words) cancel his vote out.
I don't believe this is what Jesus meant when he said women should be submissive to their husbands.
As long as she is not committing a sin, I can't imagine him ordering her not to vote.
In the end, I believe women would be more submissive if more men loved their wives as Christ loved the church. But, sadly, it is so very hard to find a man who will love his wife like that.
My Dad would never let my mother vote simply because he felt she would vote for the "other" candidate and (in his words) cancel his vote out.
I don't believe this is what Jesus meant when he said women should be submissive to their husbands.
As long as she is not committing a sin, I can't imagine him ordering her not to vote.
In the end, I believe women would be more submissive if more men loved their wives as Christ loved the church. But, sadly, it is so very hard to find a man who will love his wife like that.
pastorjeff
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The scripyure does tell the husband to submit to his wife:
Eph. 5:21-- Submitting yourselves one to another in fear of God.
This sets the whole stage for what follows through 6:9.
If a man loves his wife the way Christ loves the church (as he is commanded to do in Ephesians) - he will not make unreasonable requests...
Me thinks voting is not the ONLY issue the OP has in his marriage...
My husband would not even entertain the thought of telling (or even asking) me not to vote. We, as Christians (both male and female) need to have a say in who runs our country!
Thank God, voting in the free world, is done by secret ballot. This includes between spouses. No one has the right to deny this essential freedom.
I believe the Bible teaches mutual respect for one another and does not make a man the dominant member of the marriage union.
Just as we become one with Christ, so husband and wife become one. When we try to stretch the marriage analogy beyond what the scripture is saying, we end up with false notions.
When the word makes common sense, seek no other sense.
Cheers,
Jim
I believe the Bible teaches mutual respect for one another and does not make a man the dominant member of the marriage union.
Just as we become one with Christ, so husband and wife become one. When we try to stretch the marriage analogy beyond what the scripture is saying, we end up with false notions.
When the word makes common sense, seek no other sense.
Cheers,
Jim
The scripyure does tell the husband to submit to his wife:
Eph. 5:21-- Submitting yourselves one to another in fear of God.
This sets the whole stage for what follows through 6:9. </font>[/QUOTE]Actually I think 21 is ending a thought that we are to be submissive to one another as christians. The family, all christians, then it goes into the order of things. As a pastor do you make decisions always by what the people want? And if you don't and make the wrong decision who is accountable, your poeple or you? Same here, God will hold the husband accountable.
Tim ...scrappers husband.
"Before 1920 woman did'nt need to vote"
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And it may be argued that afterwards it was part of the duty to the state that every citizen has (give unto Caesar what is his and all that).
This may seem to be be a bit of a stretch in the USA, but in Belgium for example voting is mandatory and any husband who prevents his wife from doing it can look forward to an 'interesting' conversation with the Rijkswacht.
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And it may be argued that afterwards it was part of the duty to the state that every citizen has (give unto Caesar what is his and all that).
This may seem to be be a bit of a stretch in the USA, but in Belgium for example voting is mandatory and any husband who prevents his wife from doing it can look forward to an 'interesting' conversation with the Rijkswacht.
LOL honey, now they all know its about us.Originally posted by Scrapper:
The previous post from Scrapper does not reflect the real Scrapper's opinion.We do have a debate about this going amongst friends. Oh, and by the way, the couple is real (I said it was hypothetical), but it's not us!