Supreme Court Blocks Trump Tariffs

[DaveXR650]

The US is not the only game in town any more.

True. But in reality the US is finally behaving for it's own self interest- just like everyone else already is. I don't know about Canada but we in the US work longer hours, get fewer government services, take less vacation and live in dirtier and poorer run cities than most of Europe, largely because they don't pay anything for their own defense. We have become aware of this and Trump is actually doing something about it. After all of Trumps supposedly crazy talk Europe is finally at least on paper promised to start paying what they agreed to for NATO defense. Yet Trump is the one who talks irresponsibly? NATO still can't muster more than a handful of aircraft in an emergency and is nothing but ripe fruit for China or Russia without the United States.
If we really screw up do you plan on welcoming millions of us if we charge across your border? Maybe you will as you already have replaced over 30% of your population with immigrants in the past 10 years. What I am saying is that everyone goes on about Trump's crazy talk but no one comments on these enlightened countries crazy actions that have already been put in place. Your government is literally committing suicide (often with the help of the medical establishment). Maybe you need a Trump.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

The purpose is for Americians to buy American-made -- which makes more jobs for americians

Among the tariffs orininally imposed were 50% tariffs on the countries of Lesotho and Madagascar. I believe these were later reduced to 15%.
Lesotho's imports to the USA were primarily cheap denim jeans.
Does the USA really want to make impoverished countries like Lesotho utterly destitute so that some really low-grade, low-wage jobs can be created in America? These high levies on Lesotho and other African states signalled the end of the African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA) trade deal that was supposed to help African economies develop through preferential access to US markets. Is that not what Christian countries ought to be doing - helping the world's poorest nations to develop their own industries rather that being dependent on charitable handouts forever?

 

[Charlie24]

NO actually I would not.

When the world sees the US as unreliable that is the opposite of MAGA.

The US cannot survive in isolation even though they think they can.

In this modern world no country can survive on it's own.

I can understand that the average US citizen wants to believe that all is getting better.

Trum* thinks that for the US to win everyone else has to loose. That is foolish.

He just shows how little he understands the world of international trade.

Bring it down to the level of your own home. You need someone else to provide the gas for you car, someone else to provide the means of heating your home and keeping the lights on, someone to grow the food you eat.

What shocks me the most is that the people he has around him are supposed to be smart business people but they are either afraid to disagree with him or they are not that smart.

That's a totally different view from this American.

But I understand you're not an American and you have legitimate concerns.

One thing that I try to point out that Shaun Hannity points to at times.

Trump overshoots everything and has fun with it to reach common ground that works for both parties.

So he throws his weight around as POTUS because he can, but he wants what is fair for everyone.

 

[canadyjd]

The truth is that I am not the one in love with Trum*.

What!!!! You are not in love with DT? WOW!!! I could never have guessed you weren’t in love with DT based on your posts.

You two are wearing blinders and rose coloured glasses.

No, I see clearly, without bias and the dreaded TDS clouding my judgment.

I’ve never said I love DT. I’ve voiced my disapproval, especially concerning his crude and unpresidential comments.

But I’m also give him credit where he deserves it. DOGE, Immigration policy, tariffs policy, economic policy, law enforcement policy, defending young girls from the radical trans ideology that demands they share locker rooms, bath rooms, showers with mentally ill men who think they are women….

He has gotten a lot right and is changing the course of this country for the better. I applaud him for that and support him.

The world is turning away from the US as it is too unstable and unreliable.

Simply untrue. The world isn’t “turning away”. The world is upset DT is refusing to allow Americans to be taken advantage of other countries. If they want a relationship with us, and they do, they will change policy to reflect fair treatment of the U.S.

He has shown that contracts and signed agreements mean nothing to him.

A great big pile of cowpie. He has shown if other countries, in NATO for instance, won’t honor their written contracts, then he will demand they honor their word or suffer the consequences.

You do not even believe your media

With good reason.

The New York Federal Reserve has published research indicating that U.S. consumers and businesses bear the majority of the costs from tariffs imposed in 2025, with nearly 90% of the economic burden falling on them. This contradicts claims from the Trump administration that tariffs primarily benefit the U.S. economy.

I don’t trust the Federal reserve either. All of these Washington institutions have been infiltrated by radical leftists that push a biased agenda instead reporting the truth.

There are simply too many examples to list.

Peace to you

 

[Silverhair]

True. But in reality the US is finally behaving for it's own self interest- just like everyone else already is. I don't know about Canada but we in the US work longer hours, get fewer government services, take less vacation and live in dirtier and poorer run cities than most of Europe, largely because they don't pay anything for their own defense. We have become aware of this and Trump is actually doing something about it. After all of Trumps supposedly crazy talk Europe is finally at least on paper promised to start paying what they agreed to for NATO defense. Yet Trump is the one who talks irresponsibly? NATO still can't muster more than a handful of aircraft in an emergency and is nothing but ripe fruit for China or Russia without the United States.
If we really screw up do you plan on welcoming millions of us if we charge across your border? Maybe you will as you already have replaced over 30% of your population with immigrants in the past 10 years. What I am saying is that everyone goes on about Trump's crazy talk but no one comments on these enlightened countries crazy actions that have already been put in place. Your government is literally committing suicide (often with the help of the medical establishment). Maybe you need a Trump.

The US has always done things in it's own self interest. They were never the altruistic self-sacrificing one.

The reason that your country is so run down is because of the attitude of me first and get as much money as I can and damn the rest.

Odd that the US always told everyone that they are the big dog so we will protect you and you in return follow our lead. Then Trum* comes along and complains that they just did what the US wanted.

But now he complains that they are actually saying that they can do things on their own. They can build up their own military buying from their own companies and he does not like that. He did not like it when told he could not just take over Greenland so he threatened to impose higher tariffs. Dave he is acting like the schoolyard bully.

Ya that twit really did a number on Canada and we are paying the price for it. I am surprised that more of you are not crossing the border to come to the best country in the world.

I do not like the liberals or Carney but at least he is doing something to build up our trading partners so we are not so dependent on the US.

I can see CUSMA being redone as it is good for all three countries. We all need each other and the sooner Trum* figures that out the better it will be.

He needs to grow up and stop acting like a child.

Why would we want Trum* when we have someone better Carney.

 

[DaveXR650]

Does the USA really want to make impoverished countries like Lesotho utterly destitute so that some really low-grade, low-wage jobs can be created in America? These high levies on Lesotho and other African states signalled the end of the African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA) trade deal that was supposed to help African economies develop through preferential access to US markets. Is that not what Christian countries ought to be doing - helping the world's poorest nations to develop their own industries rather that being dependent on charitable handouts forever?

No. Which is why I was astounded when Trump initially put up a chart that said that a trade deficit was the same as a tariff against us. Small countries, whether it's jeans or fishing tackle, should not be treated like a major geopolitical rival. There is nothing wrong with a trade deficit with Lesotho.

But the major problem with Africa is that it is corrupt, has little infrastructure, and big problems with it's work ethic. Most of our "help" to Africa seems to involve getting them into huge debt and dependence so that we can obtain raw materials cheaply. Of that the first world is indeed guilty. China is currently spending tons in Africa and building roads and infrastructure but I doubt it's out of love for Jesus or Africa.

All this is why I say that tariffs are useful but require a lot more than one man's whim on a daily basis. Business can't function under that and it's not right under U.S. law, as the Supreme court rightfully stated.

 

[Silverhair]

What!!!! You are not in love with DT? WOW!!! I could never have guessed you weren’t in love with DT based on your posts.

Just wanted to make sure you knew where I stood.

No, I see clearly, without bias and the dreaded TDS clouding my judgment.

I’ve never said I love DT. I’ve voiced my disapproval, especially concerning his crude and unpresidential comments.

But I’m also give him credit where he deserves it. DOGE, Immigration policy, tariffs policy, economic policy, law enforcement policy, defending young girls from the radical trans ideology that demands they share locker rooms, bath rooms, showers with mentally ill men who think they are women….

He has gotten a lot right and is changing the course of this country for the better. I applaud him for that and support him.

I agree he has done some good but he has made the US a laughing stock on the world stage. The US is not trusted as far agreements are concerned.

Simply untrue. The world isn’t “turning away”. The world is upset DT is refusing to allow Americans to be taken advantage of other countries. If they want a relationship with us, and they do, they will change policy to reflect fair treatment of the U.S.

A great big pile of cowpie. He has shown if other countries, in NATO for instance, won’t honor their written contracts, then he will demand they honor their word or suffer the consequences.

The US told the world they were the big dog and they would protect them as long as they followed the US lead. Now he complains they did just that.

Now when they said OK we will build up our military and buy from our own companies he gets up set as they are not buying from the US.

With good reason.

Then use simple logic. The importing companies pay the tariff and they will just pass that cost on to the US citizens.

Facts are facts even when they come from people you do not like.

I don’t trust the Federal reserve either. All of these Washington institutions have been infiltrated by radical leftists that push a biased agenda instead reporting the truth.

There are simply too many examples to list.

So you believe Trum*. You believe a politician that has a questionable moral character.

Interesting.

 

[DaveXR650]

Odd that the US always told everyone that they are the big dog so we will protect you and you in return follow our lead. Then Trum* comes along and complains that they just did what the US wanted.

I'm just talking about spending agreements that the countries themselves have already agreed to but not paid! Ever. When Trump says they should pay more - he mean what they have failed to pay after already agreeing to do so. That Europe should pay more overall is a good point but we aren't even close to that yet.

Ya that twit really did a number on Canada and we are paying the price for it.

Canada is doing quite a number on itself. Like I said I think you have already replaced 30% of your population with immigrants in 10 years and assisted suicide is becoming your no. 1 cause of death. You don't need any help in the modern self-loathing of Western culture. You seem to be leading the way and we are not far behind.

I am surprised that more of you are not crossing the border to come to the best country in the world.

Well I guess the plan is to buy it first. Name a price. We will print up whatever amount you want.

 

[Silverhair]

I'm just talking about spending agreements that the countries themselves have already agreed to but not paid! Ever. When Trump says they should pay more - he mean what they have failed to pay after already agreeing to do so. That Europe should pay more overall is a good point but we aren't even close to that yet.

Yes I know what they said and now that they are doing it the US is up set because they are not going to buy from the US but from their own companies.

Odd you should say they are not dong so as from what I have seen they are exceeding it. Trum* is just mad because we do not want to buy your over priced products.

Canada is doing quite a number on itself. Like I said I think you have already replaced 30% of your population with immigrants in 10 years and assisted suicide is becoming your no. 1 cause of death. You don't need any help in the modern self-loathing of Western culture. You seem to be leading the way and we are not far behind.

As I said before I do not agree with the liberal government as they have brought in some questionable policies.

Well I guess the plan is to buy it first. Name a price. We will print up whatever amount you want.

Ya you would like to buy Canada so we become part of the US but we do not want to lower our standard of living that far.

We have some dingbats out here in Alberta that think being part of the US is a good idea so were are going to send them down to you.


But putting that all aside both our countries have their issues.

You and I are old enough to know that these problems will pass and new ones will popup.

 

[DaveXR650]

But putting that all aside both our countries have their issues.

You and I are old enough to know that these problems will pass and new ones will popup.

And, even though we go back and forth, I consider the people of Canada and England friends, and always will.

 

[canadyjd]

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Trum* thinks that for the US to win everyone else has to loose. That is foolish.

It foolish to say that and believe that’s how DT thinks.

DT has repeatedly stated he expects countries to do what is in their best interests, for their citizens. He doesn’t complain about that. He’s just stating reality.

Only the U.S., in the whole world, is expected to “grin and bare it” as other countries take advantage of us with unfair trade policies.

He just shows how little he understands the world of international trade.

Bring it down to the level of your own home. You need someone else to provide the gas for you car, someone else to provide the means of heating your home and keeping the lights on, someone to grow the food you eat.

What shocks me the most is that the people he has around him are supposed to be smart business people but they are either afraid to disagree with him or they are not that smart.

Peace to you