SUVs plunge toward 'endangered' list

This really does not make any sense. You make an accusation about me with zero evidence and then expect to be relieved of the responsbility to debate the scriptures on the matter at issue - namely responsible stewardship of the environment - unless I repent of an accusation that has no support?

The reader will see what you are doing - avoiding the matter at issue and trying to turn this into a discussion about my character.

I have stated that owning an SUV is sin in most cases. You seemed to take objection to this claim. I have provided scriptures and associated argument for my position on this.

Why not do likewise for your position?

 

We have seen from Genesis 1 that humans are instructed to take care of the world.

We have seen from Romans 8 that God will liberate the present creation from its bondage.

We have seen from Colossians 1 that God will reconcile all things to Himself through Christ - things on Heaven and on earth.

We have seen the implication of God undertaking a new creation when Jesus is raised on the first day of a new week.

And, on top of this, there are many scriptural arguments to the effect that the world to come will bear some "memory" or characteristics of this present world. We have Jesus' wounds preserved in his resurrection body - empirical evidence that what happens in this world may be translated into the world to come.

We have Paul in 1 Corinthians 15 likening the resurrection to a seed that is planted and then produces a flower. Does the flower bear some connection to the seed? Of course it does. Paul chooses his illustrations carefully - he is telling us that there will indeed be some continuity between this world and the next.

Jesus makes a similar claim that I may bring up later.

The scriptures speak rather clearly - what we do now in our world matters. The creation will not be thrown away, it will be redeemed.

Does it really make sense, then, that we work at cross purposes with God by undertaking actions that damage the very world he is working to redeem?

 

At least, so you say.

The Bible tells a slightly different story that doesn't fit your agenda quite so well.

I leave you with a final verse to explain away. Start twisting.

Psalms 115:
16 The heavens are the LORD's, but the earth He has given to the human race.



God will give us a new earth at redemption, but this one He has given to us to rule over. Anything else is just your opinion.

 

This is hardly much of an argument. God has indeed given man the earth to "rule over". But, as per Genesis 2, he is told to take care of it.

The scriptures are quite clear and coherent on this matter - God intends creation to be ruled by man. You seem to think that this counters the position that man is to care for the creation as well and temper his consumerism with environmental considerations.

How does Jesus view the exercising of power of something one has been given authority over?

"You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. 43Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 44and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. 45For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many

This is the model for how we are to exercise rule over the world that indeed has been "given to us" as per Psalm 115. We are not treat the earth as either our private gold mine or ashtray.

As for "twisting", I indeed leave it to the reader to make that judgement.

 

And how to do that in the best way is strictly your opinion and doesn't come from scripture.

And that is the end of this argument.

Find another one to try to pass your screwball opinions off as scripture.

 

This thread is now closed. LE