Syncretism

[John of Japan]

I would look at that as compromise on the part of the more conservative evangelicals and as ecumenism as a whole.

Bingo. Jeremiah et al are compromising basic principles of the Christian faith by cooperating (an unequal yoke) with idolators.

Isn't syncretism more like one religion adopting to the culture and even the tenets of another religion so that it changes its own religious doctrine in some fashion or way to win the others. "Syn" means come together as one.

For example, I have seen in Islamic nations Muslims bringing sacrifices such as goats or chickens to various saints. They claim, as the RCC claims, that they don't practice idolatry, but there it is.

In the same way the RCC claims they don't practice idolatry. But in the same Islamic nation where there is a day set aside to worship Mary, the small minority of Christians will flock from all over and worship this statue of Mary, even bringing chickens to offer before her.
Some Muslims, out of respect for Mary will do the same thing, or at least bow down to her and worship her, as do the rest of the "Christians."

Is not this syncretism? Muslims and Christians worshiping at the same god, each denying that they worship idols, but in reality committing the same sin.

Double bingo! I'd agree that your examples are syncretism. However, to be more specific, syncretism is technically a belief system that mixes teachings from other belief systems to form a new one. The Bahai religion is a prime example, saying they are following Jesus, Abraham, Muhammed, Moses, Buddha and Zoroaster all at the same time.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

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[OldRegular]

Hi All,

I just heard about a conference being held in Texas next month that at first sounds like a good thing:http://dfw.undergodindivisible.org/

I was interested when I heard Dr. Jeremiah and Ravi Zacharias were both speaking. Then I listened to Brannon House today and he tells who all is sharing the stage with Ravi and Dr. Jeremiah and it will shock you, or it should. John Hagee, Kenneth Copeland will join with several Catholics and Ken Hamm and Richard Land and many more. It is a leadership conference and they state up front they have differences but are hoping to gather and speak about common interests.

Is this OK or what would be considered Syncretism? I was shocked to see Dr. Jeremiah on TBN with Paul Crouch and I really don't understand Zacharias, he seemed to me to be a rock of orthodox doctrine in the world of apologetics and now he is going to share the pulpit with Kenneth Copeland. House states this conference is in connection with Glenn Becks conferences?

All doesn't seem right in Christendom to me or am I just over reacting to something that should be oky doky?

Unless I am mistaken Glenn Beck is a Mormon.

Christians hooking up with cultists as a Christian conference is flat wrong. Crouch, TBN, Copeland, and Beck are bad news for Christians. I am not sure about Hagee but he has a thing about Israel!

If they want to talk politics okay!

 

[Bethelassoc]

Unless I am mistaken Glenn Beck is a Mormon.

Christians hooking up with cultists as a Christian conference is flat wrong. Crouch, TBN, Copeland, and Beck are bad news for Christians. I am not sure about Hagee but he has a thing about Israel!

If they want to talk politics okay!

Aren't we seeing a type of new religion anymore? Mixing of social and political issues with a little bit of gospel. I know 'social gospel' has been around for a while, but this all seems to be a new take on it.

 

[kyredneck]

Aren't we seeing a type of new religion anymore? Mixing of social and political issues with a little bit of gospel. I know 'social gospel' has been around for a while, but this all seems to be a new take on it.

When it comes to mixing in the political issues, sounds like Dispensationalism/Christian Zionism to me. Nothing new there.

 

[Bethelassoc]

True. Although it seems to be more than Zionism, etc. anymore. Rather than preach God's word, a growing trend in the "church world" is wrapped up in self help, motivational speeches, laced with bible talk, sporting political issues and the like.

 

[OldRegular]

Aren't we seeing a type of new religion anymore? Mixing of social and political issues with a little bit of gospel. I know 'social gospel' has been around for a while, but this all seems to be a new take on it.

For many years the "social gospel" was pushed by the so-called liberal churches [Episcopalians and such] and still is. Unfortunately a lot of the more "evangelical" churches are pushing a political/social agenda. In my opinion this is a dangerous trend. I believe it is the duty of a pastor [and perhaps the denominational structure] to speak to moral issues [as does Scripture] but there must be a lot of wisdom exercised and I don't see much wisdom anywhere now days.

 

[kyredneck]

True. Although it seems to be more than Zionism, etc. anymore. Rather than preach God's word, a growing trend in the "church world" is wrapped up in self help, motivational speeches, laced with bible talk, sporting political issues and the like.

If John Hagee is included in the mix, and Kenneth Copeland, the interests of the CUFI war cult is there too.

 

[Yeshua1]

Well, then that would mean that the harvest is over.

Jeremiah 8:20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.​

I believe we are presently in the gentile harvest time else why is the church being added to every day?​

I see the "end of the age" as pertaining to the ingathering of the gentiles which came after the judgement on national Israel and its leadership of Jesus day.​

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.​

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.​

To me this is the "age" of which Jesus spoke, the age of the gentiles who have and are continuing to be used as lining stones of which Jesus is building His church until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled.​

So I guess I am a kind of partial preterist futurist where national Israel has indeed been judged and the gentile nations are now coming.
The vail of blindness will be lifted from Israel eventually after the fulness of the elect gentiles have entered into the Abrahamic covenant.

The tares of Matthew 13 (IMO) are the pretenders, satan's masterpiece: The unsaved church member. These are to be judged at His Coming at the end of the gentile age.​

So kyredneck, do you see an end to this mortal earth with it's ongoing sin and death?​

Will sin and death go on forever into eternity or how do you see it ending and do you have scripture for that event?​

Thanks
HankD​

Think that its pretty much what Paul wrote!

that right now we are in the Age of grace, that god has turned mainkly towards the gentiles to be saved, but that hewill turn back to dealing with national isreal in end times after the last of the gentiles are saved and in, fulness of the gentiles, than He will go back to isreal, to complete missing 7 weeks of daniel, and than all livng isrealites of that time shall indeed be saved!

 

[Yeshua1]

For many years the "social gospel" was pushed by the so-called liberal churches [Episcopalians and such] and still is. Unfortunately a lot of the more "evangelical" churches are pushing a political/social agenda. In my opinion this is a dangerous trend. I believe it is the duty of a pastor [and perhaps the denominational structure] to speak to moral issues [as does Scripture] but there must be a lot of wisdom exercised and I don't see much wisdom anywhere now days.

think wof/proseperity/possitive confession are ALL part of satan masqurading as an Angel of light, and getting Zhis false doctrinesinto churches, basically denying God and making us "little gods", same lie Adam and Eve bought!

 

[kyredneck]

So kyredneck, do you see an end to this mortal earth with it's ongoing sin and death?​

Will sin and death go on forever into eternity or how do you see it ending and do you have scripture for that event?

23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; then they that are Christ`s, at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall deliver up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all rule and all authority and power. 1 Cor 15

 

[Magnetic Poles]

All of this merry gaggle are birds of a feather. That said, why would anyone consider it a bad thing for people of like mind on an issue to work together for the furtherance of such?