Systemwide 70% of all federal prisonors tested are positive for recovering from coronavirus

[Scott Downey]

More than 70 percent of federal prisoners tested nationwide for coronavirus were positive; LA lockup has worst outbreak

That is a very positive development.
They have not tested everyone yet.
At least the federal prison population has been allowed to develop it's herd immunity.
Where are all the deaths... have not heard a thing.

 

[Yeshua1]

More than 70 percent of federal prisoners tested nationwide for coronavirus were positive; LA lockup has worst outbreak

That is a very positive development.
They have not tested everyone yet.
At least the federal prison population has been allowed to develop it's herd immunity.
Where are all the deaths... have not heard a thing.

Wonder if that would be same in large cities like NY and Chicago?

 

[Scott Downey]

Wonder if that would be same in large cities like NY and Chicago?

yes, hope so. Think about this logically, countries which shut down and hunkered down and have had few cases are in BAD shape going forward, corona virus will be a constant worry for flaring up again and again. But countries that had large numbers of infections develop enough immunity that futures infections wont be bad, and so on for years. Here is another way of showing that. When Europeans came to the Americas, they brought with them their viral diseases for which the native peoples had no immunity and they died up to 90 or 100% of them all over the American continents, however the Europeans having had centuries of exposure were much more immune even though the same disease could hurt and kill them too, they thrived.

So country like Sweden will be in and is in great shape medically and economically and socially and will have dealt with the virus in a sustainable way. But other countries, global travel will always be a major problem. You cant have corona infected people entering because anyone of them could start it up again and again. So what are you going to have, continual cycling economic shutdowns?

These medical researchers have put a lot of peoples hopes onto a vaccine which will give people an artificial immunity which may never happen because there is no vaccine yet.

 

[Yeshua1]

yes, hope so. Think about this logically, countries which shut down and hunkered down and have had few cases are in BAD shape going forward, corona virus will be a constant worry for flaring up again and again. But countries that had large numbers of infections develop enough immunity that futures infections wont be bad, and so on for years. Here is another way of showing that. When Europeans came to the Americas, they brought with them their viral diseases for which the native peoples had no immunity and they died up to 90 or 100% of them all over the American continents, however the Europeans having had centuries of exposure were much more immune even though the same disease could hurt and kill them too, they thrived.

So country like Sweden will be in and is in great shape medically and economically and socially and will have dealt with the virus in a sustainable way. But other countries, global travel will always be a major problem. You cant have corona infected people entering because anyone of them could start it up again and again. So what are you going to have, continual cycling economic shutdowns?

These medical researchers have put a lot of peoples hopes onto a vaccine which will give people an artificial immunity which may never happen because there is no vaccine yet.

Still go back to the 1918 Influenza Epidemic where 20 Million Americans died first few months, and then the society had enough antibodies in it to have the Flu effectively neutralized by end of the year!

 

[Scott Downey]

Still go back to the 1918 Influenza Epidemic where 20 Million Americans died first few months, and then the society had enough antibodies in it to have the Flu effectively neutralized by end of the year!

Only 667,000 died in the US of spanish flu.

 

[InTheLight]

Only 667,000 died in the US of spanish flu.

"Only"

 

[Yeshua1]

Only 667,000 died in the US of spanish flu.

So the 20 million was worldwide then?

 

[Gold Dragon]

More than 70 percent of federal prisoners tested nationwide for coronavirus were positive; LA lockup has worst outbreak
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At least the federal prison population has been allowed to develop it's herd immunity.

70% of those tested were positive. That doesn't mean that 70% of the entire prison population was positive because they likely only tested those who were already highly likely to be positive, those with symptoms.

The federal Bureau of Prisons’ latest figures show that out of the 2,700 tests performed systemwide, nearly 2,000 have come back positive, strongly suggesting there are more COVID-19 cases left uncovered, according to The Associated Press.

There are 141,933 inmates in federal custody in a public facility. So 2000 positive tests represents 1% of the federal prison population. There are likely many cases who have not been tested yet.

They did not randomly test the prison population, but it looks like they are hoping to expand their testing to include asymptomatic inmates.

BOP: BOP Expands COVID-19 Testing

The Bureau of Prisons (BOP) recently began expanding COVID-19 testing of inmates utilizing the Abbott ID NOW instrument for Rapid RNA testing at select facilities experiencing widespread transmission. The BOP continues to provide testing for COVID-19, symptomatic inmates, as recommended by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The BOP received ten Abbott ID NOW instruments on April 10, 2020, and a day later, 264 test kits were deployed to institutions with known COVID-19 cases. Their primary role is for rapid testing of newly symptomatic cases to confirm the diagnosis quickly.

Additionally, asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic inmates can be positive for COVID-19 and can transmit the virus to other inmates. Expanding the testing with the Abbott ID NOW instruments on these inmates will assist the BOP in slowing transmission by identifying those asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic individuals who test positive and isolating them quickly and then quarantining contacts.

And it is not a good thing that lots of people have tested positive. It means that prisons (like cruise ships and aged care facilities, and other high density indoor facilites) are places where further outbreaks will occur of this highly infectious disease that the US is struggling to contain and will continue to be sources of more cases that spill over to the general population.