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Taking a Bible to Church

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preacher4truth

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SolaSaint said:
IMO, not carrying a Bible to church services is the result of Seeker Friendly programs like Rick Warrens. I questioned why men stopped carrying their bibles to worship service to our Seeker Pastor about 10 years ago and he laughed at me and said there was no need to have a bible since all scripture readings were on the big screens. He follows Pastors.com religiously. Sadly another result of the Purpose Driven Marketing/Management ideas. They don't want Christians and unchurched Charlie to read the Bible on their own because it just may contradict their message.
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Hmmmm. People that think it's no big deal to have a Bible at church seem quite smug about it don't they?
 
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Gregory Perry Sr.

Active Member
SolaSaint said:
IMO, not carrying a Bible to church services is the result of Seeker Friendly programs like Rick Warrens. I questioned why men stopped carrying their bibles to worship service to our Seeker Pastor about 10 years ago and he laughed at me and said there was no need to have a bible since all scripture readings were on the big screens. He follows Pastors.com religiously. Sadly another result of the Purpose Driven Marketing/Management ideas. They don't want Christians and unchurched Charlie to read the Bible on their own because it just may contradict their message.
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Hummmmm....(see the highlighted part)...that sounds kind cultish or Catholic to me...hope you don't still go there...or at least that the "seeker" "Pastor" (whatever that is) has been run outta there on a rail!

Bro.Greg:saint:
 
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pk4life

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preacher4truth said:
That's good, let's find out what standard you come up with.



It sounds good like the standard should be high right here.



Now you just lowered the standard, and daily Bible reading is too high a standard. How do you know more and more people fall short? I mean you don't even know if they have a Bible at church or not so how do you know they don't read it daily?



Well, you got off of providing a standard after showing daily Bible reading to be too difficult to be a standard.

Yes, you should be more aware of your surroundings everywhere you go.
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So if we can't adhere to standards found in the Bible... make up our own standards, and look around to see who doesn't follow them?
 
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Aaron

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preacher4truth said:
A preacher friend of mine is a bit disillusioned concerning members who do not bring a Bible to church. In this particular church most of those who do not bring a Bible are men. Some of these men leave a Bible in 'their' pew, but of these there is a count of exactly two.

I've seen this elsewhere, where men would not carry in a Bible but would leave one in their favorite 'spot'.

I've witnessed the same trend in several churches. The thing is that almost every woman brings a Bible. The men? Not so much.

That said, when watching those who enter for the 'worship service' nearly every man who enters do not bring a Bible. They don't use a tablet, smart phone Bible -- they use nothing at all.

There are few men who actually bring a Bible to SS or to worship. Said simply sit there, some fall asleep, some look completely disinterested.

Is bringing a Bible indicative of being spiritual, indicative of intent to grow, or is bringing a Bible just unnecessary?

It seems more women bring a Bible to church than do men.

- Blessings
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If the service is such that it is only needed to follow along for a few verses, and then to lay in one's lap for forty-five minutes, why lug the thing around?
 
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annsni

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Aaron said:
If the service is such that it is only needed to follow along for a few verses, and then to lay in one's lap for forty-five minutes, why lug the thing around?
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Very good point Aaron!!

I run the computer and will not put the Scripture on the screen unless there is a good reason for it. Everyone needs their own Bibles to follow along. SOMETIMES there is a particular verse that needs breaking down and I'll put it up but it's so rare that it happens. :)
 
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Aaron

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thisnumbersdisconnected said:
Because the pastor might say something that you want to refer back to verse to remember? I don't know, just a thought.
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No one needs to be flipping through Bibles during a sermon. That's rude.

I attended a church for fifteen years till they moved. Met at 10 in the morning. Broke at noon. Fellowshipped for two and half hours over lunch, then began an afternoon service that often ran till 4:30. You brought your Bible and the book you happened to be reading at the time, and there was ample opportunity to use them.

Go to a church. Meet for an hour or so, then go home . . . the Bible's just an extra load.
 
SolaSaint

SolaSaint

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To tack on to my previous comments on the seeker pastor who preached Saddleback sermons week after week. He would do just as Rick Warren did and use several different bible versions to get his message across. He has even used The Message and NIV in the same verse so it would say what was needed to stay on topic. This is when I started questioning the Message Bible for preaching. This is also when I questioned the pastor why people didn't bring bibles anymore and he let me have it. He obviously didn't believe in the Berans from Scripture. He also followed Rick Warren's advice for getting rid of descenters of the Purpose Driven method and suggested we leave if we are not going to follow the PD plan. We did leave and I'm very happy we did. That is one of the main reasons I will always warn people of Rick Warren and his PD marketing schemes.
 
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thisnumbersdisconnected

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Aaron said:
No one needs to be flipping through Bibles during a sermon. That's rude.
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If you keep up with his verse references, there isn't any undue "flipping" -- everyone does this in my church, unless they have an iPad or tablet and can just jump from one reference to another. Of course, that's what I consider rude. Took me months of being disgusted to realize they weren't texting. :laugh:
 
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