Tattooed reverend gets hate online as Canterbury Cathedral defends her

[Keith Mullins]

I have no problem with tattoos, although I personally do not like them and do not have any. Almost everyone in our church has them, should I ask them to have them remove.

The pastor who mentored me had tats (former drill sgt.) and one of my favorite evangelist has almost his whole upper body covered (former Hells Angel). I have never seen either's tatoos.

I do have an issue with a woman as a Pastor.

I do. It is disfiguring a body that God created.

What if they were before conversion?

 

[Salty]

You gotta admit, she gots some splainen ta do! Not with me, I wouldn’t be caught dead in an Anglican Church.

I have attended an Anglican service!

 

[JonC]

I have attended an Anglican service!

You didn't drink the Kool aid, did you???

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I have no problem with tattoos, although I personally do not like them and do not have any. Almost everyone in our church has them, should I ask them to have them remove.

The pastor who mentored me had tats (former drill sgt.) and one of my favorite evangelist has almost his whole upper body covered (former Hells Angel). I have never seen either's tatoos.

I do have an issue with a woman as a Pastor.


What if they were before conversion?

What if there was no real conversion process that ever really took place? What if your congregation was really populated with unrepentant sinners just going through the motions of claiming Jesus as lord and Savior but they really don’t? Could the ratio be an indication of rebellion against authority?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

You didn't drink the Kool aid, did you???

Or maybe he followed John Shelby Spong in his liberalizations of the Episcopal Church… boy did that serve them well

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I have attended an Anglican service!

Yea, I went to St. Peter’s Church in Morristown NJ one Sunday to check it out. It was pretty much indistinguishable from the Roman Catholic Churches I attended for 35 years but they invited me to sit down afterwords for cake & coffee. There we discussed issues like church stance on abortion etc. There I got the distinct impression that abortion was sanctioned! I’d never heard any Christian church take that stance before. And that’s what I mean by never ever bothering with them again.

 

[Salty]

... I’d never heard any Christian church take that stance (pro-abortion) before. And that’s what I mean by never ever bothering with them again.

Many denominations are:

 

[David Kent]

I have attended an Anglican service!

My wife and I did some years ago. We were visiting one of my wife's friends who was being installed as a lay reader. The friend said to me that she knew what Kay thought about the Anglican church, and I asked "What is it?" and she replied "Not a lot." Anyway we went, and saw the bishop wearing his more of Dagon and his crook of Osiris. Anyway at the end they had communion and Kay and I were the only two out of a large congregation that didn't participate.

 

[Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin]

The Reverend/Pastor/"Faith Leader" must be hiding behind that woman playing dress up because I don't see one.

As for Reverends/Pastors/Elders having tattoos I don't think it's sin. I do think it looks tacky unless you are a warrior. Perhaps that's the Scots-Irish in me.

 

[Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin]

I have attended an Anglican service!

In our extended Christian community we have several Conservative Anglicans we fellowship with. Good born-again folks. One of our friends is a vendor at one of the farmer's markets we attend. They've got eight kids, and their kids all help run the farm booth handling change, selling goods, explaining growing practices. They all have parts of the farm assigned to them that they are responsible for.

Good Bible believing Christians. This particular Anglican church has services that are very regimented, like Catholicism, but their walk with Christ is vastly different.

 

[canadyjd]

It seems that the hatred of those who keep attacking us usually support the futurist theology. Free Willism comes from Roman Catholicism, same as futurism.

Please explain “futurism”.

BTW, the only thing that matters is we won. USA!USA!USA!

BTW (2), I really admired your Queen. A great lady.

peace that you

 

[Piper]

I have attended an Anglican service!

What did you think of it? I've been a member of Bethlehem Baptist with John Piper and a number of people have left there and become Anglican. They like the solemnity and liturgy.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

What did you think of it? I've been a member of Bethlehem Baptist with John Piper and a number of people have left there and become Anglican. They like the solemnity and liturgy.

Do they believe in woman getting abortions, sacramentalism, infant baptism, gay & female priests? Honestly, how does someone leave a Baptist Church for Anglican ones… it definitely is not in sync with the Trinity.

 

[Piper]

Do they believe in woman getting abortions, sacramentalism, infant baptism, gay & female priests? Honestly, how does someone leave a Baptist Church for Anglican ones… it definitely is not in sync with the Trinity.

I have no idea. Others have become Catholics. Inconceivable.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Many denominations are:

Not Primitive Baptists! Those denominations that have become heretical have guaranteed their place in hell and rightly so…. Burn baby burn.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I have no idea. Others have become Catholics. Inconceivable.

How do… what is the criteria to joining your church?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The Reverend/Pastor/"Faith Leader" must be hiding behind that woman playing dress up because I don't see one.

As for Reverends/Pastors/Elders having tattoos I don't think it's sin. I do think it looks tacky unless you are a warrior. Perhaps that's the Scots-Irish in me.

You do know Northern Ireland was essentially a big plantation scripted to take advantage of Irish as the labor source… with the Sassinaugh (spelling ?) making enormous profits off the sweat and toil of the laborers. I watched the same thing occurring in the coal mines in Pennsylvania. If you have time come up to Scranton and see the results of the rape of the land. Those that survived are strong, work orientated and thankful that “what doesn’t kill ya always makes you stronger”

 

[Piper]

How do… what is the criteria to joining your church?

The people I mentioned left this church.

The church I was referring to is Bethlehem Baptist of Minneapolis. I am no longer a member.

The criteria is this:

Agree to Relational Commitments: Relational Commitments | Bethlehem Baptist Church


Believe this: (I have removed scripture references for brevity. See here Congregational Affirmation of Faith | Bethlehem Baptist Church
THE WORD OF GOD
We believe that the Bible is the Word of God, fully inspired and without error in the original manuscripts, written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, and that it has supreme authority in all matters of faith and conduct.

II. THE TRINITY
We believe that there is one living and true God, eternally existing in three Persons; that these are equal in every divine perfection, and that they execute distinct but harmonious offices in the work of creation, providence and redemption.


III. GOD THE FATHER
We believe in God the Father, an infinite, personal spirit, perfect in holiness, wisdom, power and love. We believe that He infallibly foreknows all that shall come to pass, that He concerns Himself mercifully in the affairs of men, that He hears and answers prayer, and that He saves from sin and death all who come to Him through Jesus Christ.

IV. JESUS CHRIST
We believe in Jesus Christ, God’s only begotten Son, conceived by the Holy Spirit. We believe in His virgin birth, sinless life, miracles, and teachings. We believe in His substitutionary atoning death, bodily resurrection, ascension into heaven, perpetual intercession for His people, and personal visible return to earth.

V. THE HOLY SPIRIT
We believe in the Holy Spirit who came forth from the Father and Son to convict the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment, and to regenerate, sanctify, and empower all who believe in Jesus Christ. We believe that the Holy Spirit indwells every believer in Christ, and that He is an abiding helper, teacher and guide.

VI. REGENERATION
We believe that man was created by God in His own image; that he sinned and thereby incurred physical, spiritual and eternal death, which is separation from God; that as a consequence, all human beings are born with a sinful nature and are sinners by choice and therefore under condemnation. We believe that those who repent and forsake sin and trust Jesus Christ as Savior are regenerated by the Holy Spirit and become new creatures, delivered from condemnation and receive eternal life.

VII. THE CHURCH
We believe in the universal church, a living spiritual body of which Christ is the head and all regenerated persons are members. We believe in the local church, consisting of a company of believers in Jesus Christ, baptized on a credible profession of faith, and associated for worship, work, and fellowship. We believe that God has laid upon the members of the local church the primary task of giving the gospel of Jesus Christ to a lost world.

VIII. CHRISTIAN CONDUCT
We believe that a Christian should live for the glory of God and the well-being of his fellow men; that his conduct should be blameless before the world; that he should be a faithful steward of his possessions; and that he should seek to realize for himself and others the full stature of maturity in Christ.

IX. THE ORDINANCES
We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ has committed two ordinances to the local church, baptism and the Lord’s Supper. We believe that Christian baptism is the immersion of the believer in water into the name of the triune God. We believe that the Lord’s Supper was instituted by Christ for commemoration of His death. We believe that these two ordinances should be observed and administered until the return of the Lord Jesus Christ.

X. RELIGIOUS LIBERTY
We believe that every human being has direct relations with God, and is responsible to God alone in all matters of faith; that each church is independent and must be free from interference by any ecclesiastical or political authority; that therefore Church and State must be kept separate as having different functions, each fulfilling its duties free from dictation or patronage of the other.

XI. CHURCH COOPERATION
We believe that local churches can best promote the cause of Jesus Christ by cooperating with one another in a denominational organization. Such an organization, whether a regional or district conference, exists and functions by the will of the churches. Cooperation in a conference is voluntary and may be terminated at any time.

This church is affiliated with the Minnesota Baptist Conference and Converge Worldwide, and may likewise cooperate with interdenominational fellowships on a voluntary independent basis.

XII. THE LAST THINGS
We believe in the personal and visible return of the Lord Jesus Christ to earth and the establishment of His kingdom. We believe in the resurrection of the body, the final judgement, the eternal felicity of the righteous and the endless suffering of the wicked.

 

[JonC]

Do they believe in woman getting abortions, sacramentalism, infant baptism, gay & female priests? Honestly, how does someone leave a Baptist Church for Anglican ones… it definitely is not in sync with the Trinity.

This is what I was talking about when I said that extra-biblical philosophies and theories, if presented as God's Word, can damn a soul.

I have known many who have left churches (even good churches) because they looked to Scripture and found what was being taught as Scripture was not actually in the Bible.

Sometimes these people go to other churches. Sometimes they stay and overlook the error. But sometimes (especially with newer converts) they abandon Christianity all together.

God will save who He will. BUT we are held responsible when we become barriers to the gospel

Christians can, of course, express their understanding. But Christians must lean on God's Word. When preaching or teaching we have to be careful to relate Scripture and not theories.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

This is what I was talking about when I said that extra-biblical philosophies and theories, if presented as God's Word, can damn a soul.

I have known many who have left churches (even good churches) because they looked to Scripture and found what was being taught as Scripture was not actually in the Bible.

Sometimes these people go to other churches. Sometimes they stay and overlook the error. But sometimes (especially with newer converts) they abandon Christianity all together.

God will save who He will. BUT we are held responsible when we become barriers to the gospel

Christians can, of course, express their understanding. But Christians must lean on God's Word. When preaching or teaching we have to be careful to relate Scripture and not theories.

Roman Catholicism is The Primary Extra-Biblical Philosophy and the one I’m most experienced with. It is also the one that taught me to carry my cross whenever a difficult situation happened so what are you going to do. Specifically, they teach a spiritual stoicism that helps one cope with difficult situations. However the RC has no real way to ferret out Regeneration that leads to Conversion, rather they walk you through 7 sacraments as the way to God….like going to Mass, Marriage, Communion, Confessing Sins to a Priest…blah blah.