Ten Reasons to Revel in Being Chosen

[utilyan]

Well at least one Calvinist said it.

Zero

You could say it. You could be the first, lets hear it.

Romans 9

1I am telling the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience testifies with me in the Holy Spirit, 2that I have great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart. 3For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh,


Tell us your willing to go to hell for sake of your reprobate brethren.

 

[MennoSota]

Zero

You could say it. You could be the first, lets hear it.

Romans 9

1I am telling the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience testifies with me in the Holy Spirit, 2that I have great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart. 3For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh,


Tell us your willing to go to hell for sake of your reprobate brethren.

Paul reveled in being chosen. It is precisely why he wished that all might be called by God.

 

[utilyan]

All this and you miss the Sovereign choice of God. Who does the cutting? Who does the grafting? Who makes the choices?

Praise be to God our Savior and Redeemer.

God's sovereign choice is God commands ALL MANKIND not to sin.



God can choose to do anything. He can even choose to not have to choose. Your saying God lacks this omnipotence.

In fact according to you GOD has NO CHOICE but to do things your way.

He can't even beat you in a card game unless he CHEATS and picks the hand for you.

Someone beats you by picking your hand, that's not impressive at all.

Your version of God doesn't forgive anyone, No one repents, God does the repenting.


God commands all mankind not to sin, But you still don't know what his choice is. Brilliant.

 

[utilyan]

Paul reveled in being chosen. It is precisely why he wished that all might be called by God.

You provide no scripture.

Romans 9

2that I have great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart.


Romans 11

19You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear;21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.


Christians don't dance on the graves of others.

 

[Yeshua1]

God's sovereign choice is God commands ALL MANKIND not to sin.



God can choose to do anything. He can even choose to not have to choose. Your saying God lacks this omnipotence.

In fact according to you GOD has NO CHOICE but to do things your way.

He can't even beat you in a card game unless he CHEATS and picks the hand for you.

Someone beats you by picking your hand, that's not impressive at all.

Your version of God doesn't forgive anyone, No one repents, God does the repenting.


God commands all mankind not to sin, But you still don't know what his choice is. Brilliant.

Why would God demand us to have sinless perfection when already provided for us to have that now in sight of God?

 

[Yeshua1]

You provide no scripture.

Romans 9

2that I have great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart.


Romans 11

19You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear;21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.


Christians don't dance on the graves of others.

Paul rejoiced in His God, as did david, when he danced before Him, have you?

 

[MennoSota]

You provide no scripture.

Romans 9

2that I have great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart.


Romans 11

19You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear;21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.


Christians don't dance on the graves of others.

Are you being purposely obtuse?

 

[utilyan]

Why would God demand us to have sinless perfection when already provided for us to have that now in sight of God?

Romans 9
20On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it?

God demands you not to sin. Being sinless is not a chore.

When you or I sin it is MY and your fault. God provides every means for you not to sin ever again.


LOL your kidding right? If God doesn't DEMAND you to be sinless, then you can't sin period, because sin is doing what GOD does not WANT, sin is doing what is against God's demand.


When you sin its not because its the morning, not because God didn't give you enough holy gas, not because God planned you to sin, not because anything BUT YOUR FAULT.

See you point at those reprobates....... Oh they no good because God didn't give them elect koolaid. No they sin because its THEIR fault.

Your looking for EXCUSES, License to sin has been revolt.

 

[utilyan]

Are you being purposely obtuse?

According to your logic, this squabble was God's idea not mine. So take it up with him.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Zero

You could say it. You could be the first, lets hear it.

Romans 9

1I am telling the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience testifies with me in the Holy Spirit, 2that I have great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart. 3For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh,

As I pointed out, one Calvinist said it, and you just quoted him.

Tell us your willing to go to hell for sake of your reprobate brethren.

There was once a young man who was trying to woo an unwilling young lady. "Darling," He cried, "Don't you know I'd die for you?" The lady replied, "You keep on saying it, but you never do it!"

So off you go, Utilyan, put your money where your mouth is. In the nicest possible way, go to hell.

 

[MennoSota]

According to your logic, this squabble was God's idea not mine. So take it up with him.

You keep attempting to speak for me, but you have shown no ability to read God's word without forcing your preconceived ideas on God's word. If you let God’s word speak for itself you will see God's choice oozing through Romans 11. Why are you hell bent on your preconceptions?

 

[utilyan]

As I pointed out, one Calvinist said it, and you just quoted him.


There was once a young man who was trying to woo an unwilling young lady. "Darling," He cried, "Don't you know I'd die for you?" The lady replied, "You keep on saying it, but you never do it!"

So off you go, Utilyan, put your money where your mouth is. In the nicest possible way, go to hell.

Like you prove repeatedly no Calvinist would ever say that. Point Paul not a Calvinist.

 

[utilyan]

You keep attempting to speak for me, but you have shown no ability to read God's word without forcing your preconceived ideas on God's word. If you let God’s word speak for itself you will see God's choice oozing through Romans 11. Why are you hell bent on your preconceptions?

What preconception?

It says:

Romans 11

19You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear;21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.


I totally agree with the verse. Why not present you think that means?

Explain to us who God will not spare.

 

[MennoSota]

What preconception?

It says:

Romans 11

19You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear;21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.


I totally agree with the verse. Why not present you think that means?

Explain to us who God will not spare.

I shared the entire chapter in hopes you would see God's amazing grace in choosing us, who are not worthy of his blessing. I cannot help you grasp that kind of amazing grace. Only God can help you.

 

[utilyan]

I shared the entire chapter in hopes you would see God's amazing grace in choosing us, who are not worthy of his blessing. I cannot help you grasp that kind of amazing grace. Only God can help you.

Yes of course.

 

[Yeshua1]

Romans 9
20On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it?

God demands you not to sin. Being sinless is not a chore.

When you or I sin it is MY and your fault. God provides every means for you not to sin ever again.


LOL your kidding right? If God doesn't DEMAND you to be sinless, then you can't sin period, because sin is doing what GOD does not WANT, sin is doing what is against God's demand.


When you sin its not because its the morning, not because God didn't give you enough holy gas, not because God planned you to sin, not because anything BUT YOUR FAULT.

See you point at those reprobates....... Oh they no good because God didn't give them elect koolaid. No they sin because its THEIR fault.

Your looking for EXCUSES, License to sin has been revolt.

Why would God demand us to be sinless, when jesus died for us while we were yet sinners?

 

[Yeshua1]

What preconception?

It says:

Romans 11

19You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear;21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.


I totally agree with the verse. Why not present you think that means?

Explain to us who God will not spare.

Those who merely profess jesus, without really being His!

 

[Yeshua1]

Like you prove repeatedly no Calvinist would ever say that. Point Paul not a Calvinist.

Paul was the primary Calvinist!

 

[utilyan]

Paul was the primary Calvinist!

LOL Calvinism is older then Paul.


Genesis 3

4The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die!

^Once Saved Always Saved. God Breathed, God imaged, Elect human beings.

Genesis 3

11And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?” 12The man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree, and I ate.”

Put the blame on God. The man has no free will, God manipulated Adam by the woman HE GAVE him.


Somehow Adam has the POWER to change Human nature and no where does it say God destroys man's ability to do Good.

God gives us a list of consequences <-Read Genesis 3

Who's the braniac who figured God would make NO MENTION of the ultimate consequence that is not being able to do any act of GOOD?

That FALSE LIE is not in scripture. That is false humility run amuck

You guys should ask God to put reading comprehension on your regeneration list.

I do believe in Sovereign God Though however. THANKS to Calvinist.

Because there is no way in heck to read this bible verse and conclude the meaning to be the exact opposite unless by divine intervention.

James 2

24You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.


The caliber of STUPID has got to be divine given. Probably a result of condemnation brought by their own Judgment.


"Mankind can do nothing good." <--false judgment
"Ok show us where God took that power away."
"go to hell you reprobate" <-- that power actually got taken away from them!

When a person Judges' wrongly God can flip it right back on them. We are told don't judge.

2“For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

By JUDGING all mankind is evil they shot themselves in the foot.

 

[Yeshua1]

LOL Calvinism is older then Paul.


Genesis 3

4The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die!

^Once Saved Always Saved. God Breathed, God imaged, Elect human beings.

Genesis 3

11And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?” 12The man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree, and I ate.”

Put the blame on God. The man has no free will, God manipulated Adam by the woman HE GAVE him.


Somehow Adam has the POWER to change Human nature and no where does it say God destroys man's ability to do Good.

God gives us a list of consequences <-Read Genesis 3

Who's the braniac who figured God would make NO MENTION of the ultimate consequence that is not being able to do any act of GOOD?

That FALSE LIE is not in scripture. That is false humility run amuck

You guys should ask God to put reading comprehension on your regeneration list.

I do believe in Sovereign God Though however. THANKS to Calvinist.

Because there is no way in heck to read this bible verse and conclude the meaning to be the exact opposite unless by divine intervention.

James 2

24You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.


The caliber of STUPID has got to be divine given. Probably a result of condemnation brought by their own Judgment.


"Mankind can do nothing good." <--false judgment
"Ok show us where God took that power away."
"go to hell you reprobate" <-- that power actually got taken away from them!

When a person Judges' wrongly God can flip it right back on them. We are told don't judge.

2“For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

By JUDGING all mankind is evil they shot themselves in the foot.

Are Calvinist of the devil then, are we even saved per you?