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Tensing testifies that Plame not covert.

Petra-O IX

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2 Timothy2:1-4 said:
I do not understand what your beef is with toensing here. Are you bothered because she wrote the piece in the Times? Certainly not. Im sure you have a larger sense of genuiness than that.

If you want to look at airing something out in the court of public opinion you do not have to come very far away from Plame. You can stop right at her husband. This guy has been a media monger since he returned from his "mission" the Plame got him.

In the end Teonsing is more credible whether or not you like her answer.
I don't understand how Toensing can be viewed as an authority on whether or not Plame was covert or not. Toensing is just a Lawyer with an opinion, she is not employed by the CIA so therefore she would not be privileged to sensitive information regarding status of those who do do. I have no beef with Toensing I just think she is irrelevant in this matter.
 

Pastor Larry

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Toensing's credibility comes from her writing the law (and therefore knowing what it says and what its intent was) and from her practice in this area.

Toensing's main point, it seemed to me, was that Plame could not be covert because the CIA did not take affirmative steps to hide her identity which they were required to do if she was in fact covert.
 

2 Timothy2:1-4

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Petra-O IX said:
I don't understand how Toensing can be viewed as an authority on whether or not Plame was covert or not. Toensing is just a Lawyer with an opinion, she is not employed by the CIA so therefore she would not be privileged to sensitive information regarding status of those who do do. I have no beef with Toensing I just think she is irrelevant in this matter.

Well either you know better than the congressional investigation or they know better than you because they had Toensing testify because she wrote the law. But of course if you need Plame to be right then Toensing needs to be seenas irrelevent.
 
2 Timothy2:1-4 said:
It is amazing to see the libs try to hang on to nothing as evidence to vilinize someone who has done nothing.

Lying to the FBI and the Grand Jury are both illegal. Libby should get a few years in prison to contemplate what he did, but I bet this administration bails him out. After all, he was their fall guy.
 

Petra-O IX

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2 Timothy2:1-4 said:
Well either you know better than the congressional investigation or they know better than you because they had Toensing testify because she wrote the law. But of course if you need Plame to be right then Toensing needs to be seenas irrelevent.
Toensing wrote a law and that is all ,she gave her opinion and that is all,Toensing however is not employed by the CIA and has no knowledge of Plames duties.
Now how hard can that be?
Toensing seems to be pretty irrelevent to me, after all she is just a Lawyer.
 

2 Timothy2:1-4

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Petra-O IX said:
Toensing wrote a law and that is all ,she gave her opinion and that is all,Toensing however is not employed by the CIA and has no knowledge of Plames duties.
Now how hard can that be?
Toensing seems to be pretty irrelevent to me, after all she is just a Lawyer.


Yea I understand she is irrelevent to you. But is she irrelevent to this issue? Is she irrelevent to the decision makers? It doesnt appear so.
 

777

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Pastor Larry said:
Toensing's credibility comes from her writing the law (and therefore knowing what it says and what its intent was) and from her practice in this area.

Toensing's main point, it seemed to me, was that Plame could not be covert because the CIA did not take affirmative steps to hide her identity which they were required to do if she was in fact covert.

In her own testimony, Plame says she didn't know she was covert at the time of the leak, she didn't realize it at that time.

Shesaid she did go overseas on secret missions within the past five or six or whatever years that would have qualified her as a covert agent.

REP. DAVIS: Thank you.

Thank you, Mrs. Plame.

It's clear that the administration officials knew you worked for the CIA, but did they know that your status was that of a covert agent?

MS. PLAME WILSON: I have no way of knowing, but I can say I worked for the Counterproliferation Division of the Directorate of Operations. And while not all, many of the employees of that division are, in fact, in covert status.

REP. DAVIS: But you don't -- I mean, I think one of the issues here was not that you worked for the CIA, because that was obviously why they'd know you in the administration, but for the crime to have been committed, I understand they had to have known that you were covert. And you don't have any direct linkage that they knew that you were covert at that point.

MS. PLAME WILSON: Again, Congressman, I'm not a lawyer, but as I said at my --

REP. DAVIS: You don't have any direct knowledge that --

MS. PLAME WILSON: No.

If she didn't even know, how would they?
 

Petra-O IX

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2 Timothy2:1-4 said:
Yea I understand she is irrelevent to you. But is she irrelevent to this issue? Is she irrelevent to the decision makers? It doesnt appear so.
Well nothing is as it appears to be Tim. The entire hearing was a total waste and was nothing more than a sideshow to entertain the general public with all the actors hamming it up to get special notice. On a side note, Rush Limbaugh thinks that Valarie Plame is a Babe, so I quess there was some relevancy to this freak show after all .
 
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