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Terrorism, Racism, and identifying groups

Benjamin

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If the KKK is not committing terroristic acts then on what grounds would the organization be called a "terrorist group"?
Historically this organization is known to commit terrorist acts, what has changed is that their acts of violence is not tolerated by our society. The KKK's hate which is still there incites violence and they look for excuses to commit it, but again it is not tolerated and that is what stops the "acts" in its tracks. Therefore, being known for what they are keeps their acts or their desire to commit those terrorist acts in the closet, but that does not make them any less terrorists. The closet is or should be the only safe place place for them, not seen or not heard if they are inciting violence, either out of sight or dealt with for what it is (terrorism) on the spot.

OTOH, Antifa openly commits terrorist acts and unfortunately it is tolerated by enough in society, because of their hate, and therein it is allowed to go on. I say call out hate these hate groups that are prone to violence against those who disagree with them and list them as terrorists - then the second they commit violence have a zero tolerance judgment down on their terrorist's heads. I am all for listing both the KKK and Antifa as terrorists and dealing with any acts of their acts of violence as terrorists would deserve. I think listing the KKK and Antifa as terrorist is a good counter-punching move, how about you? How should Antifa's acts of violence be dealt with if society, generally in whole as with the KKK, has not taken a stand against it?
 

Benjamin

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What are the benefits of designating groups, such as the KKK, as terrorist organizations?
It identifies those in an organization as persons who commit unlawful violent acts and intimidation against others for political purposes.

What are the dangers?
A few bad apples in a political organization causing others to lose their 1st amendment rights.

Are there implications should the criteria be expanded beyond racism?
Too many implications to list. A few are:
Our 1st and 2nd Amendments are for the right of the people to be in charge of the government. Racism, although this narrative is currently being built up by Left for purposes of division, should be dealt with by the people and not abused authority within the government.

Terrorism already expands for beyond racism and it is our political system that must be protected which in effect protects us all. Therefore, when terrorism is used for intimidation purposed against the people it should be dealt with as such.
 

JonC

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It identifies those in an organization as persons who commit unlawful violent acts and intimidation against others for political purposes.


A few bad apples in a political organization causing others to lose their 1st amendment rights.


Too many implications to list. A few are:
Our 1st and 2nd Amendments are for the right of the people to be in charge of the government. Racism, although this narrative is currently being built up by Left for purposes of division, should be dealt with by the people and not abused authority within the government.

Terrorism already expands for beyond racism and it is our political system that must be protected which in effect protects us all. Therefore, when terrorism is used for intimidation purposed against the people it should be dealt with as such.
I worry that "terroristic action" will merge with the ill defined "hate speech" and applied one day to the Church.

Christianity also has its "bad apples" and even good apples sometimes have a spot or two.

Just a concern (maybe more an observation).
 

SGO

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I worry that "terroristic action" will merge with the ill defined "hate speech" and applied one day to the Church.

Christianity also has its "bad apples" and even good apples sometimes have a spot or two.

Just a concern (maybe more an observation).

Westboro Baptist Church is the trial balloon for this policy.
 

church mouse guy

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Hate groups, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

Oregon governor 'incredibly worried' about violence at Proud Boys rally
Civil rights group The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) classifies the Proud Boys as a hate group, citing its members’ anti-Muslim and misogynist rhetoric.

The Proud Boys just seem to be guys who like masculine fun in their private lives. They seem to hate the KKK, antifa, and BLM. They know that they are kafirs and they disdain feminists, as most people do.
 
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