Terroristic Cop Placed on Leave

[robustheologian]

Except that if you look up the definition of "terroristic," it's associated with those who participate in terrorism. The "ism" (or "istic") part of the word denotes a person who practices or is concerned with something; or holds certain principles, doctrines, etc.

Thus, in order to accurately use the term "terroristic," one must show that a certain practice and/or beliefs are involved.

I'm sure his beliefs were involved in his brutality.

Not sure I'd go that far; I'd expect to see blood if it were truly vicious and/or savage.

I'm only using the words you thought best to use.

And if there was blood involved you would still have some blind "conservatives" calling the use of the terms 'vicious' and/or 'savage' extreme.

 

[Use of Time]

The use of the word terrorist in matters like this are exaggerated and over the top rhetoric, used by extremists, for a political purpose in order to demonize those they disagree with and to gain sympathy for their purely political cause. It has no foundation in reality, it makes those who use it foolish and not credible. It only has an ultimate purpose of dividing people and beating down political opponents. It is the ultimate example of dishonesty.

So much irony here. It's almost like you were asked to describe your posting style in one paragraph.

 

[robustheologian]

So much irony here. It's almost like you were asked to describe your posting style in one paragraph.

:laugh: You call it irony; I call it hypocrisy.

 

[Don]

I'm sure his beliefs were involved in his brutality.

So what are his beliefs?

I'm only using the words you thought best to use.

Careful; "best" is YOUR adjective, not mine. I simply gave a list of words; YOU chose which ones to use.

And if there was blood involved you would still have some blind "conservatives" calling the use of the terms 'vicious' and/or 'savage' extreme.

Just as you would have some blind liberals using those words whether they were truly applicable.

 

[robustheologian]

Just as you would have some blind liberals using those words whether they were truly applicable.

I do agree that there are blind liberals, and I admire that you are honest enough to use "just as" denoting that there are in fact blind conservatives.

 

[carpro]

How did a thread about a cop's extreme use of violence turn into a defense of law enforcement?

There was no "extreme" use of violence.

 

[robustheologian]

There was no "extreme" use of violence.

Of course you would say so.

 

[carpro]

Of course you would say so.

The only thing "extreme" here is your rhetoric.

 

[robustheologian]

The only thing "extreme" here is your rhetoric.

The mere fact that you would view my rhetoric as extreme shows that you lack an understanding of what extreme really means. I'll pray for you my brother.

 

[carpro]

The mere fact that you would view my rhetoric as extreme shows that you lack an understanding of what extreme really means. I'll pray for you my brother.

Save your pathetic false piety for someone else.

 

[robustheologian]

Save your pathetic false piety for someone else.

Matthew 7:2; Titus 1:15

 

[Zaac]

Of course you would say so.

Pretty much. The white privileged have for four hundred plus years of this land's history undervalued, underestimated and marginalized the lives of people of color.

 

[righteousdude2]

Pretty much. The white privileged have for four hundred plus years of this land's history undervalued, underestimated and marginalized the lives of people of color.

Enough of the silliness! Move into reality. Right now, every black person facing law enforcement seems to be hoping they are roughed up in order to be made the victim, when in truth, they could have complied and let the legal system be their vindication to any injustices! However, as a victim, the stigma of being a suspect is lifted, and then mobs get cops fired and suspects released without charges.

Regardless of what that cop did that wasn't in order with regulations of the city, that girl was resisting the direct order of a law enforcement officer, and she needed to be charged for that!

I say poppycock to your continuous whining!

 

[righteousdude2]

How did a thread about a cop's extreme use of violence turn into a defense of law enforcement?

And on a side note: What other word besides "terroristic" could be used to describe an act that instills extreme fear in an individual?

You have earned this .....



Please present when required! :laugh:​

 

[Alcott]

Tapeworm, he hasn't "had his day in court," and therefore he is innocent by not being proven guilty. Didn't you say that in another recent thread?

 

[Gina B]

I'd like to see what happened before that.
If a large group of people take over private property, that sounds scary. It seems that all the police knew was that a large number of teens basically broke into the area, refused to leave, and there was a fight.
If the girl, regardless of her attire, was a suspect for breaking in and possible assault, then tried to run and wouldn't comply with the officer, what was he supposed to do to gain control? He couldn't grab her clothing without it being inappropriate since it was a bikini. That left him with hair or an arm, which he did.
Then those guys running up like they did - that was scary! When I saw that, I thought it looked like they were ready to hurt the officer and he was definitely outnumbered.
And I wonder how the two officers who ran after the other kids handled it when/if they caught them. I've never seen an officer NOT put a fleeing suspect to the ground.
While I agree that systemic racism is a problem, I do not see it in the actions of this officer. Certainly more video exists. Only one person pulled out their camera? Doubtful. No security footage? Possible, but more possible that there was. I have to wonder why it is not posted.

 

[righteousdude2]

I'd like to see what happened before that.
If a large group of people take over private property, that sounds scary. It seems that all the police knew was that a large number of teens basically broke into the area, refused to leave, and there was a fight.
If the girl, regardless of her attire, was a suspect for breaking in and possible assault, then tried to run and wouldn't comply with the officer, what was he supposed to do to gain control? He couldn't grab her clothing without it being inappropriate since it was a bikini. That left him with hair or an arm, which he did.
Then those guys running up like they did - that was scary! When I saw that, I thought it looked like they were ready to hurt the officer and he was definitely outnumbered.
And I wonder how the two officers who ran after the other kids handled it when/if they caught them. I've never seen an officer NOT put a fleeing suspect to the ground.
While I agree that systemic racism is a problem, I do not see it in the actions of this officer. Certainly more video exists. Only one person pulled out their camera? Doubtful. No security footage? Possible, but more possible that there was. I have to wonder why it is not posted.

:applause: :applause: :applause: You are dead right Gina, "No racism here!"

 

[robustheologian]

You have earned this .....



Please present when required! :laugh:​

Where did I bring up race in the quote you mentioned??? Nowhere.

What they say about you on other forums is correct...your ignorance has no bounds. :laugh:

 

[shadow0421]

So the majority of the crowd crashed a party they were not invited too then got out of hand and instead of accepting personal responsibility they want to deflect from their own behavior and work to find something wrong with the cops.

BINGO!

It was because of THEIR behavior that the police were called in the first place. Follow the rules and behave yourself and you will never have to deal with a cop. They were in the wrong. All of them should have obeyed what the officer was saying and nothing would have happened.

 

[Use of Time]

I'd like to see what happened before that.
If a large group of people take over private property, that sounds scary. It seems that all the police knew was that a large number of teens basically broke into the area, refused to leave, and there was a fight.
If the girl, regardless of her attire, was a suspect for breaking in and possible assault, then tried to run and wouldn't comply with the officer, what was he supposed to do to gain control? He couldn't grab her clothing without it being inappropriate since it was a bikini. That left him with hair or an arm, which he did.
Then those guys running up like they did - that was scary! When I saw that, I thought it looked like they were ready to hurt the officer and he was definitely outnumbered.
And I wonder how the two officers who ran after the other kids handled it when/if they caught them. I've never seen an officer NOT put a fleeing suspect to the ground.
While I agree that systemic racism is a problem, I do not see it in the actions of this officer. Certainly more video exists. Only one person pulled out their camera? Doubtful. No security footage? Possible, but more possible that there was. I have to wonder why it is not posted.

He told "bikini girl" to leave and she was but had some parting words and the officer decided that that just could not stand which results in him going back to get her and putting her on the ground roughly. Seemed to be self defeating behavior since the girl and her group were in the process of leaving which means less people to deal with and corral which adds a little bit more stability to the scene. Again, de escalation is key. Notice how as soon as he decides to pursue this action the situation got worse and more chaotic.