Terrorized by 'War on Terror'

[GLL]

Some are paranoid. I have fun.
Don't knock it. Fun people live longer than
paranoids (if the Lord tarries).

I mentioned '1987' cause like 2010 you said is
related to 2007 so 1987 is related to 1984.

I have been posting on bullentin boards since 1984.
What were you doing in 1984?
I was paranoid and posting on bbs in 1984.

BTW, it took from 1976 to 2000 to earn the MegaBuck.

In 1984 I was working for Ford Motor Company facing a layoff and wondering "now what am I going to do?" But I wasn't paranoid. I think I was actually looking forward to breaking the bonds of my oppressor.

So tell me, how did you make your 1,000,000.00? Got any advice?

 

[Dragoon68]

... I'm sure more things that I was called nuts for believing will be accepted for what they are shortly. I don't need to convert people Dragoon. The truth does that. All anybody can do is keep showing it until it can't be ignored any longer. Here's some more of it.

I certainly don't wish to argue each of the points you've made as there'd be no end to it and neither would give into to the other aside from the wide range of topics into which such a debate would lead.

I must say that neither you nor your sources have a corner on the facts nor on predicting what may or may not happen in the future. All of us believe what we do because of the "facts" we have accumulated from the sources we trust - even our own experiences in some cases - and all of us have various ideas about what may or may not happen. I've found myself to be both correct and incorrect about both facts and predictions over the course of my lifetime. I'm not so bold as to claim I have all the answers!

Generally speaking I don't trust politicians, lawyers, professors, and news reporters and not necessarily in that order. I tend to trust the "facts" of the people in the trenches doing the work and some others who demonstrate a balanced professional analysis of matters. I don't limit that just to the lowest levels either but more to the credibility of the person as sensed by what and how they make their points. It's a personal judgment certainly subject to error. I find it increasingly easy to read the agendas of most commentaries and as soon as I run across the hot buttons I'm done with them. Like any fallable man, I could be fooled but I do pray for discernment of truth.

When someone starts telling me they have all the "secret" and "hidden" answers to what's really happening in the world and everyone else is completely blind to it, then I start remembering the many true "nuts" - certainly not to imply you're one of them - that I've dealt with in various capacities over the years. I also often sense a degree of confidence not due another fallable man such as myself. Before God I am a fool but before other men I'm no more and no less of one than they.

Further, I'm also constantly reminded that only God is the the abolute Truth and only He knows for certain what's going to happen.

Many of the sources you offer are not credible to me which makes the "facts" they present also lacking in value. If you want people to believe your "facts" then you probably have to present credible evidence not just paranoia from so-called "experts" who have formulated theories to fit their agenda.

Having been a part of a few "scenes" in my life I find it to be absolutely incredible what people can make of things when the reality is usually very different. Some people see shadows from every angle. Sometimes, indeed, the shadows are real but very often they're not so complicated.

 

[Ed Edwards]

GLL: "So tell me, how did you make your 1,000,000.00? Got any advice?"

After my 4-years military I used the GI bill and finished
a teaching degree at East Central (then) College, Ada, Oklahoma.
I taught High School Math for years. I was working on a masters
on a counseling degree. I found out the highest pay for 4-year
colleges (that was 1973) was in Engeneering. The last year I
taught I had a contract for $7,400 (the median income for my
family of three that year). I got an engineering degree and started
out at $11,800 the first year (1976).

I graduated with the EE degree in Dec 1975.
The average engeneering degree, Bachelor, that year got
everybody that wanted a job a job paying an average of
12,000$ per year. I was working in the library.
Those graduating with a Library Sciencel, Masters, only
half got a job paying 9,000$ per year (no average, everybody
among the half who got a job got 9,000$ per year.
Of course, i had the advantage, I knew what I was doing
ahead of time.

So go figure 24 years starting at 14,800$ and averaging
onemegabuck over 24 years - you got it all figured out.

Needless to say, all I have of the onemegabuck is a
quarter collection

 

[GLL]

Ed, I prefer stories with happy endings. But it was humorous.:laugh:

 

[Ed Edwards]

Dragoon68: //When someone starts telling me they have all the "secret"
and "hidden" answers to what's really happening in
the world and everyone else is completely blind to it, ... //

Been there, done that.
If it was a real good conspiracy, would they really know about it?

The whole idea of keeping something secret is this:

Those who talk, don't know;
Those who know, don't talk.

Therefore, there are no known conspiracies of significance.

(For the paranoid: there are unknown conspiracies that
may kill you, your loved ones, and people like you)

 

[Ed Edwards]

Ed, I prefer stories with happy endings. But it was humorous.:laugh:

In addition to the quarters, I have a nice retirement.
Retirement is worth working for! :thumbs:

 

[GLL]

Of course a fact isn't a fact until after the fact. I couldn't tell you with any degree of certainty the when and where and how the next sign will come or any after that. But there are signs if you care to look. You must know some things are true. Like the NWO and the NAU. I believe George H.W. Bush first introduced us to it in his first speech as president and certainly George W. hasn't kept it a secret. The European Union was the first step initiated. The next step is the North American Union. The next step is a New world Order. This war with Iraq and the posture we're taking with Iran is more about bringing the enemies of Israel in line with NWO as well as control of the oil. The Arab countries will conform whether anyone likes it or not.

On the other hand George W. might have a heart attack and kill over tomorrow setting back the NWO agenda another 8 years and you'll be saying in 2010 "see I told you so". But it doesn't change anything it only delays it.

Personally I'm not that comfortable trying to convince someone about these events because Im afraid of scaring the heck out of someone who is uninformed and unprepared for such allegedly devastating news. I prefer to just inform people who are open to it and then let them do the investigation as I have.

God charges us with the responsibility to know the times. It may scare us and even put us in a defensive mode. But there is little we can do about it really. It is prophesized. It is God's will. He controls the when, the where and the how.

 

[Ed Edwards]

GLL: //The next step is a New world Order. //

Look at the back (green side) of your US$1 bill.

Look at that left picture of the pyramid.
Check out the logo below the pyramid:

NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM

That is written in Latin.

'SECLORUM' is the Latin word from which we get
the English world 'secular'. 'Secular' started out as
a word that meant 'worldly' as opposed to
the clergy which was supposed to be 'other worldly

'ORDO' the the Latin word from which we
get 'order': a ranking, or organization, or set.

'NOVUS' is a Latin word from which we get 'new'.
(it really is, look it up)

Roughly then we find:

NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM

New World Order

(Wikipedia says at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_Ordo_Seclorum

The phrase Novus Ordo Seclorum (Latin for
"New Order of the Ages") appears on the reverse
of the Great Seal of the United States, first designed
in 1782 and printed on the back of the American
dollar bill since 1935.

 

[GLL]

How bout that? Never paid any attention to it. Has that been on there since the first bill? If it has than thats proof that it actually goes all the way back to the Woodrow Wilson presidency when the illegal Federal Reserve started. Wow thats powerful testimony.

 

[poncho]

Psssst! Watchout for the BB mind guards GLL. They tend to come out and play tricks on posters whenever they start to question the authorities.

Hey Ed, didn't see you there. :laugh:

 

[poncho]

Dragoon68: //When someone starts telling me they have all the "secret"
and "hidden" answers to what's really happening in
the world and everyone else is completely blind to it, ... //

Been there, done that.
If it was a real good conspiracy, would they really know about it?

The whole idea of keeping something secret is this:

Those who talk, don't know;
Those who know, don't talk.

Therefore, there are no known conspiracies of significance.

(For the paranoid: there are unknown conspiracies that
may kill you, your loved ones, and people like you)

Secrets, conspiracies, hidden shadows. You guys crack me up. All anyone has to do is read the daily newspaper to learn that our government sponsors terrorists. But you guys try and convince people it's all some big secret that we can't learn. :laugh:

In a move that reflects Washington's growing concern with the failure of diplomatic initiatives, CIA officials are understood to be helping opposition militias among the numerous ethnic minority groups clustered in Iran's border regions.

The operations are controversial because they involve dealing with movements that resort to terrorist methods in pursuit of their grievances against the Iranian regime.

In the past year there has been a wave of unrest in ethnic minority border areas of Iran, with bombing and assassination campaigns against soldiers and government officials.

Daily Newspaper

You guys gotta stop it my sides are hurting from laughing. :laugh:

 

[Dragoon68]

... You guys gotta stop it my sides are hurting from laughing.

I get some good laughs on here as well, Poncho! It can be entertaining at times.

I mowed my grass yesterday evening because I believed the weather forecast and, sure enough, it started raining hard early this morning.

 

[poncho]

I get some good laughs on here as well, Poncho! It can be entertaining at times.

I mowed my grass yesterday evening because I believed the weather forecast and, sure enough, it started raining hard early this morning.

Yeah. I like how people will do anything to avoid discussing the topic of the thread.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Poncho: //Yeah. I like how people will do anything to avoid discussing the topic of the thread.//

You are so RIGHT ON!

Here is a good example:

All anyone has to do is read the daily newspaper
to learn that our government sponsors terrorists. But
you guys try and convince people it's all some big secret
that we can't learn.

 

[poncho]

Poncho: //Yeah. I like how people will do anything to avoid discussing the topic of the thread.//

You are so RIGHT ON!

Here is a good example:

I just went back and read the whole thread, Ed. So far Filmproducer is the only person who spoke about the op immediately followed by Dragoon who tried to spin what the author was saying into something totally different from what he actually wrote and tried to swing the disscusion to hidden secrets and shadows and other assorted appeals to emotional propagandas. Next you came in and started with the usual Rumfeldian "we know there are unknowns that can't be known because people that know don't talk about it" nonsense. Not only is that a pound of baloney that is easily proven false simply by counting and listening to all the whistleblowers of the past and present but also what looks like a deliberate attempt at obfuscation.

If you don't want to discuss things I post then don't. Go start your own threads on the dangers of hidden secret shadows and the unkown knowns or something.

 

[Ed Edwards]

The fact you can post about these matters
PROVES that you are WRONG about them.

Which part of the following do you not understand?

Those who talk, don't know;
Those who know, don't talk.

Needless to say, your posts are under
surveillance of the appropriate intell agencies
and Homeland Security.

 

[GLL]

The fact you can post about these matters
PROVES that you are WRONG about them.

Which part of the following do you not understand?

Those who talk, don't know;
Those who know, don't talk.

Needless to say, your posts are under
surveillance of the appropriate intell agencies
and Homeland Security.

Thats right Ed. There also looking into your retirement fund now that they know you have one. Better hide your quarter collection. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Ed Edwards]

I also have a complete collection of the
existing Presidential Dollar Coins :type:

 

[Dragoon68]

I also have a complete collection of the
existing Presidential Dollar Coins :type:

I have a large recent penny collection and it's not a conspiracy to horde money.