Texas cop ambushed and killed. Is Obama at fault?

[Alcott]

As for the cops being blown away by thugs, it has nothing to do with obeying directives to surrender to the assassin, or that the cops broke a law. Their murder of good men in uniform has everything to do with hate, evil and revenge!

Again pure baloney. Now you're just trying to justify folks saying the murdered black people got what they deserved. Typical but expected from you.

http://conservativepost.com/stalk-t...-calling-for-10000-volunteers-to-kill-whites/
“Death is sweeter than watching us slaughter each other to the joy of a 400 year old enemy. Death is sweet. The Quran teaches persecution is worse than slaughter.”

“Retaliation is a prescription from God to calm the breasts of those whose children have been slain. So if the federal government will not intercede in our affairs, then we must rise up and kill those who kill us. Stalk them and kill them and let them feel the pain of death that we are feeling,” Farrakhan said.

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=farrakhan+stalk+kill&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

 

[carpro]

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/407...l&utm_content=entry-meta&utm_campaign=Sharing


Clarke charged the White House for creating an environment for over-the-top rhetoric and violence against police officers:

“I said last December that war had been declared against the American police officer, led by some high-profile people. One of them coming out of the White House, another one coming out of the U.S. Department of Justice. And it’s open season right now, no doubt about it.”

Later in the interview, the sheriff pointed his finger at the president himself:

“That’s why I said the President of the United States started this ‘war on police.'”

 

[OnlyaSinner]

What a (predictably) sad thread this has become. The shooting of unarmed blacks by police is obviously a lit fuse in today's racial climate. However, when anyone has made a comment that a different behavior by a victim might have led to a less tragic result, that poster gets accused of insinuating that the victim deserved to get shot. That is an enormous leap, and one I think is unjustified for most (probably not all) participants in these discussions.

If I think that a Michael Brown (for one example) walking on the sidewalk rather than down the middle of the street, would probably be alive today, that is not the equivalent of my stating that he deserved to die. Such absolutism poisons any chance of reasonable discussion.

The actions of a very small number of blacks in Minnesota may be understandable, but it's still deplorable. (As is the statement that all blacks are looking for handouts.)

 

[Zaac]

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/407...l&utm_content=entry-meta&utm_campaign=Sharing


Clarke charged the White House for creating an environment for over-the-top rhetoric and violence against police officers:

“I said last December that war had been declared against the American police officer, led by some high-profile people. One of them coming out of the White House, another one coming out of the U.S. Department of Justice. And it’s open season right now, no doubt about it.”

Later in the interview, the sheriff pointed his finger at the president himself:

“That’s why I said the President of the United States started this ‘war on police.'”

Gosh, he can say whatever he wants. Doesn't make it true. Fox News and silly racially prejudiced folks who hang on their every word seem to think that if Fox can find one black person to counter what the majority of other Blacks say, then what he says has to be the accepted truth. Too funny.

If the President of the United States created an over the top rhetoric against police that has fostered violence, then darn near every leader in the Republican Party and every commentator on Fox News and conservative talk radio with their way over the top rhetoric have fostered the same type of violence by police against black men in this country.

So when yall are ready to take responsibility for THAT maybe the President will take responsibility for what y'all say.

Otherwise, kick rocks.

white police officers were murdering unarmed black men long before Barack Obama took office.

Racially prejudiced and racist white people just want to blame the man for everything because he's black. Might as well just admit it.

 

[Zaac]

What a (predictably) sad thread this has become. The shooting of unarmed blacks by police is obviously a lit fuse in today's racial climate. However, when anyone has made a comment that a different behavior by a victim might have led to a less tragic result, that poster gets accused of insinuating that the victim deserved to get shot. That is an enormous leap, and one I think is unjustified for most (probably not all) participants in these discussions.

NOPE. There are folks on here who have said that the person deserved to get shot or that the dead person got exactly what they deserved.

If I think that a Michael Brown (for one example) walking on the sidewalk rather than down the middle of the street, would probably be alive today, that is not the equivalent of my stating that he deserved to die. Such absolutism poisons any chance of reasonable discussion.

That's not what was being referenced. Again, you had folks on here saying that Mike Brown got what he deserved, and that he deserved to die.

 

[carpro]

Gosh, he can say whatever he wants. Doesn't make it true.

Doesn't slow you down a bit.

But he can't be accused of racism for his opinion. :applause: Ticks off the left and their race baiters that they can't shut him up by playing the race card.

Plus he's in law enforcement and speaks with the knowledge and authority on this subject you don't have. And never will.

So, snip "kick rocks". Snip

Baloney. No more provocative than kick rocks.

How about pound sand? Is that too provocative?

Meanwhile "teabagger" still appears in the title of a thread in the politics forum. Nothing like consistency.

 

[Lewis]

Interesting that the folks who have enslaved and marginalized and murdered black people for almost 400 years are often questioning their desire to be a part of this country.

This is an observation/talking point that is made quite often here. The fact is that nobody on this forum has enslaved anyone, written any Jim Crow laws, or ever lynched any black man. You have to search back 50 years to find an example of Klan members lynching anybody, and they are in their graves. It is not helpful to continually accuse people living today of these things, when of course it's not true.

In fact if we're going to accuse ancestors of racial crimes, we know that Africans sold other Africans into slavery for centuries.

 

[Revmitchell]

This is an observation/talking point that is made quite often here. The fact is that nobody on this forum has enslaved anyone, written any Jim Crow laws, or ever lynched any black man. You have to search back 50 years to find an example of Klan members lynching anybody, and they are in their graves. It is not helpful to continually accuse people living today of these things, when of course it's not true.

In fact if we're going to accuse ancestors of racial crimes, we know that Africans sold other Africans into slavery for centuries.

The first black slave owner in the US was a black man.

 

[Lewis]

The first black slave owner in the US was a black man.

Yes I have read that.

 

[Zaac]

This is an observation/talking point that is made quite often here. The fact is that nobody on this forum has enslaved anyone, written any Jim Crow laws, or ever lynched any black man.

And how do you know this? Based on some of the personalities that are on this display, I wouldn't expect the truth if they had done some of those things.

And note the ANDS. If ALL of them don't apply,, then deal with the ones that do.

You have to search back 50 years to find an example of Klan members lynching anybody, and they are in their graves. It is not helpful to continually accuse people living today of these things, when of course it's not true.

You're out of touch with reality. The white supremacists have moved into the justice systems and are using the police and the judicial system to 'legally' do their lynching. Who needs to hang someone from a tree in the woods when you can murder them in broad daylight and just claim you feared for your life?

In fact if we're going to accuse ancestors of racial crimes, we know that Africans sold other Africans into slavery for centuries.

If we're gonna accuse ancestors of racial crimes, we know that the white men raped the black women , murdered the black men, and sold their illegitimate children.

But that's still going on. So if you care to go one for one on racial crimes ancestral Blacks vs ancestral Whites, let me know when you're ready.:thumbs:

 

[Zaac]

The first black slave owner in the US was a black man.

Nope. Since 1789 when it officially became a nation (When the Articles of Confederation were superseded by the ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America) there were almost 700,000 slaves here (United States) already, and many laws had codified slavery, and some states had already abolished slavery by this point.

In 1619 John Rolfe (who served as secretary and recorder general of Virginia (1614–1619) and as a member of the governor’s Council (1614–1622)) was also responsible for the first mention of Africans in Virginia. In a letter to Sandys in January 1620, Rolfe noted that late in August 1619 the Dutch ship White Lion arrived at Point Comfort, at what is now Fort Monroe, with “20. and odd Negroes” on board.

So contrary to the myth that some white folks like to tell, black folks didn't FIRST (corrected as we were talking about the first black slave owner)bring slaves to this land we call the United States, and a black man was NOT the first to own a black slave in the US.

 

[Jedi Knight]

The first black slave owner in the US was a black man.

But ignorance is bliss don't cha know! :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Lewis]

So contrary to the myth that some white folks like to tell, black folks didn't bring slaves to this land we call the United States, and a black man was NOT the first to own a black slave in the US.

"officials from Benin publicized President Mathieu Kerekou’s apology for his country’s role in “selling fellow Africans by the millions to white slave traders.” “We cry for forgiveness and reconciliation,” said Luc Gnacadja, Benin’s minister of environment and housing. Cyrille Oguin, Benin’s ambassador to the United States, acknowledged, “We share in the responsibility for this terrible human tragedy.” –

A year later, Senegal’s president Abdoulaye Wade, “himself the descendant of generations of slave-owning [and slave-trading] African kings,” urged Europeans, Americans, and Africans to acknowledge publicly and teach openly about their shared responsibility for the Atlantic slave trade –

 

[Lewis]

You're out of touch with reality. The white supremacists have moved into the justice systems and are using the police and the judicial system to 'legally' do their lynching. Who needs to hang someone from a tree in the woods when you can murder them in broad daylight and just claim you feared for your life?

Oh, you're claiming that Whites urge and pay the police to kill Blacks for them. What nonsense. There are way more Whites killed by the police than Blacks. If white people are secretly behind it all they have been duped, and not getting what they paid for.

 

[Zaac]

Oh, you're claiming that Whites urge and pay the police to kill Blacks for them. What nonsense.

The nonsense is that you jumped to a conclusion about something I didn't say. But what's new?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

And I see Zaac is still the BB's most misunderstood poster. Why do you think so many get it wrong ? Is it nobody can read, or you're full of baloney ? Gotta be one. I'll go for the latter.

 

[Zaac]

And I see Zaac is still the BB's most misunderstood poster. Why do you think so many get it wrong ?

Most of ya share the same hive brain?

Is it nobody can read, or you're full of baloney ? Gotta be one.

It is. Most of ya share the same hive brain that operates off the same stupidity. Thus several of ya are equally confused when it comes to reading.

I'll go for the latter.

You can go right back where ya came from.:wavey:

 

[Lewis]

The nonsense is that you jumped to a conclusion about something I didn't say. But what's new?

Well you said in an earlier post, "You're out of touch with reality. The white supremacists have moved into the justice systems and are using the police and the judicial system to 'legally' do their lynching." Seems I made a reasonable conclusion about what you meant.
I do know that blacks and whites see the police situation, and other things differently, so I am not that out of touch. There is a tendency from people on all sides to automatically assume the worst.

 

[Zaac]

Well you said in an earlier post, "You're out of touch with reality. The white supremacists have moved into the justice systems and are using the police and the judicial system to 'legally' do their lynching." Seems I made a reasonable conclusion about what you meant.

Seems you made the conclusion that you wanted.

 

[carpro]

“We stand with our police officers, we stand with our fire fighters, with our EMS, with our first responders. These are brave humans who risk their lives keeping us safe. We are seeing a manifestation of the rhetoric and vilification of law enforcement that is coming form the top — all the way to the President of the United States and senior administration officials.”