Texe Marrs

[Scott J]

Be aware that you are calling more than Marrs an abject liar as Dr. Sam Gipp, who was on the set, confirmed the story and Dr. Terry Watkins thought it valid enough to post it on his site.

http://www.av1611.org/voice1.html

I have a book by Gipp. He fits squarely in the same category I've defined concerning Marrs.

 

[Rufus_1611]

Rufus, Questioning someones beliefs and statements does not make one a mocker. Are we not told in scripture to expose false teachers and stay away from them? A false teacher cannot be a brother in Christ.

If you are saying that his teaching about his view on W or the Jews is the false teaching that would cause you to believe that he's not a brother in Christ then none of us will walk together, for how many of us share the same geopolitical and eschatological worldviews?

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction." - 2 Peter 2:1​

If you provide evidence of a damnable heresy expressed by Mr. Marrs or if you see him denying Jesus Christ, then I will be first in line to separate from him.

Further, if you ever hear him state that the Muslim god is the same as the Christian God or that there is more than one path to the almighty, like a certain alleged Christian president has stated, then you have located a damnable heresy and a cause for separation.

Texe Marrs' rantings serve no purpose other than breeding hate. What are we supposed to do with all this information? Avoid anything Jewish? Jewish business? Products produced by Jewish companies? What is the purpose of exposing this Jewish conspiracy of world control? So what if Jews own most of the businesses in the U.S.? (which I'm not convinced) Nothing they do or say can take away my faith in Christ. I'm sealed and secure. So what's his point?

Do you make this same argument when people rail against Muslims? If it was true that there is a Zionist conspiracy, then perhaps it would change your worldview relative to many things, such as the war on terror/Muslims, how money works, why entertainment is progressively vile, and perhaps it would cause you to pause before you trusted the alphabet agencies of the U.S. Gov't. Truth, if this is such, can lead you into many directions you never thought you'd go.

 

[Scott J]

Are you suggesting kissing and hugging sodomite prostitutes is normal where your wife grew up?

Can you show the proof that the gentleman in question was a practicing sodomite prostitute at the time Bush hugged him?

And yes to an extent. My wife has a cousin who was a lesbian but has since repented and married. They continued to show family love for her even when she was in sin...

If Marrs was her cousin, they'd probably hug him too in spite of his incredible "story-telling".

 

[Rufus_1611]

I would recommend two things: (1) get to know some Jews. Some are repulsive, some are nice (kinda like KJVOs). There's no substitute for putting a face with an idea; (2) read some Jewish stuff about Jewish-Christian relations. Just see what they say and how they say it. You don't have to believe anything without verification, but you'll never understand anything until you hear both sides of the issue. Even the Bible warns us that every man's story sounds good until you hear the other side.

I agree with your recommendations and statements. I would add that one might even find that there are Jews that agree with at least some of Mr. Marrs views...

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

 

[Amy.G]

Rufus, could you answer my question about what we are supposed to do with all Marrs' information? There must be some purpose to it.

 

[Rufus_1611]

Can you show the proof that the gentleman in question was a practicing sodomite prostitute at the time Bush hugged him?

I can but I won't point you to this proof anymore than I will point you to the fact that most of the cast of The Passion of the Christ were porn stars (Ps 101:3). It is not commonly disputed that Gannon was and is what he is alleged to be. Further, it is not commonly disputed that he became a "journalist" after his other profession. All that is disputed is how much further beyond kissing and hugging the relationship goes between he and the president.

And yes to an extent. My wife has a cousin who was a lesbian but has since repented and married. They continued to show family love for her even when she was in sin...

That is wonderful. Praise God.

A closer equivalent to the scenario you describe would be the Cheney's relationship with their lesbian daughter. I would not advocate that they stop showing affection to their family member for her decisions and would suspect that it would be love that would have the greatest opportunity to encourage repentance. I would suspect though, you would see the difference between familial affection and the Bush-Gannon scenario.

 

[Rufus_1611]

Rufus, could you answer my question about what we are supposed to do with all Marrs' information? There must be some purpose to it.

My response to your question was in the last paragraph of #102.

 

[saturneptune]

Moderators, please put this thread out of its misery.

 

[Scott J]

Hold on. Not yet.

http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/editors-choice/EC1101W4.htm

Here is Ankerberg's response to Marrs' claim.

At the bottom, you can click and watch the entire program. The supposed losing of voice occurs within the first couple of minutes. Dr. Wilkins gets a drink of water and proceeds to answer the question asked of him.

Marrs lied. Plain and simple.

 

[Bro Tony]

Hold on. Not yet.

http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/editors-choice/EC1101W4.htm

Here is Ankerberg's response to Marrs' claim.

At the bottom, you can click and watch the entire program. The supposed losing of voice occurs within the first couple of minutes. Dr. Wilkins gets a drink of water and proceeds to answer the question asked of him.

Marrs lied. Plain and simple.

Scott,

Now stop it. You know that Texe never lets the truth get in the way of a good story. It is really beyond me why anyone would ever listen to him. There are plenty of apologist with integrity out there.

Bro Tony

 

[Scott J]

I can but I won't point you to this proof anymore than I will point you to the fact that most of the cast of The Passion of the Christ were porn stars (Ps 101:3).

Well isn't that special. When asked for proof... you "won't".

Please list the names of the cast of The Passion of the Christ who were in porn and the films they were in.... or "won't" you do that either?

I am aware of one actress who had been in porn movies. When we discussed the issue here, I opposed the movie. But not because of the cast. The movie was based on Catholic add-ins, not the Bible, even down to the beating Christ got and the bloody towel that is supposedly now a RCC relic. The movie was a grotesque distortion based on catholic myths and mysticism... THAT is the problem with the movie. Few people knew or cared about the cast.

It is not commonly disputed that Gannon was and is what he is alleged to be. Further, it is not commonly disputed that he became a "journalist" after his other profession.

So which is it? He was a prostitute and became a journalist or he is both? Why are you afraid to cite proof? Could it be that your sources are just as ridiculous as Marrs or maybe he is the only source?

All that is disputed is how much further beyond kissing and hugging the relationship goes between he and the president.

It is only disputed because folks like you have read something into this incident without proof and begun to make foundless conjecture.

That is sinful.

That is wonderful. Praise God.

I would suspect though, you would see the difference between familial affection and the Bush-Gannon scenario.

It entirely depends on the traditions and practices of a family. Like I said, my wife's family are huggers. I was a little taken aback by it at first because my family definitely isn't. They hug friends. They hug family. They hug ex-boyfriends and ex-girlfriends in a friendly way when the relationship is cordial.

Not entirely unlike how the French and Italians kiss one another on the cheek.

You are simply not entitled to make a conjecture on this and read something into that isn't there. Christian character demands much more proof than that. Seeing that Bush professes to be a Christian, you further have a duty to confront him directly or else keep your mouth shut unless you have definitive proof. The Bible prohibits rumor-mongering every bit as much as it does homosexuality. The love you should have according to 1 Cor 13 would prevent you from supposing the worst.

Marrs definitely qualifies as an "inventor of evil things".

 

[Amy.G]

My response to your question was in the last paragraph of #102.

That was your answer? Quite frankly, I didn't understand it. Would you please make it a little plainer for this ol country girl?

 

[Rufus_1611]

Well isn't that special. When asked for proof... you "won't".

If you desire to hold it against me so be it but I am not going to send links to gay porn on a Christian message board. Go to www.google.com > select images> type in "Jeff Gannon"> hit enter...view all you desire.

Please list the names of the cast of The Passion of the Christ who were in porn and the films they were in.... or "won't" you do that either?

My intention was not to get into a Passion debate with you but to point out that I wasn't going to send you Gannon pics for the same reason I wouldn't send you Monicca Belucci, Rosalinda Celentano or any of the other stars of the Passion that have pics of their naked bodies all over the internet. You can perform the same google exercise as for Gannon but I do not reccommend it.

I am aware of one actress who had been in porn movies. When we discussed the issue here, I opposed the movie. But not because of the cast. The movie was based on Catholic add-ins, not the Bible, even down to the beating Christ got and the bloody towel that is supposedly now a RCC relic. The movie was a grotesque distortion based on catholic myths and mysticism... THAT is the problem with the movie. Few people knew or cared about the cast.

On this we are agreed.

So which is it? He was a prostitute and became a journalist or he is both? Why are you afraid to cite proof? Could it be that your sources are just as ridiculous as Marrs or maybe he is the only source? It is only disputed because folks like you have read something into this incident without proof and begun to make foundless conjecture.

Here's one of many...
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Gannon_comes_out_Former_escort_conservative_0506.html

You are simply not entitled to make a conjecture on this and read something into that isn't there. Christian character demands much more proof than that. Seeing that Bush professes to be a Christian, you further have a duty to confront him directly or else keep your mouth shut unless you have definitive proof.

I will contact the White House first thing tomorrow morning. Unless you are suggesting that people who believe Muslims have the same God as Christians are Christian, then Bush is not a Christian and if you believe this, neither will I call you brother.

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" - 1 Timothy 2:5​

 

[saturneptune]

.I will contact the White House first thing tomorrow morning. Unless you are suggesting that people who believe Muslims have the same God as Christians are Christian, then Bush is not a Christian and if you believe this, neither will I call you brother.

You really have problems. Enough of this. Moderators, please close this thread.

 

[Rufus_1611]

You really have problems. Enough of this. Moderators, please close this thread.

You believe Muslims can go to heaven too?

 

[Jim1999]

Texe whom? Funny thing. I never heard of him..........:applause:

Cheers,

Jim

 

[Bro Tony]

Texe whom? Funny thing. I never heard of him..........:applause:

Cheers,

Jim

Jim,

Then you are indeed a blessed man. Wish I could say the same thing about never hearing of him.

Bro Tony

 

[tinytim]

You believe Muslims can go to heaven too?

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After they are saved by the blood of Jesus Christ!!!!!:thumbsup: :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Rufus_1611]

Why Sure!!!!!!!!
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After they are saved by the blood of Jesus Christ!!!!!:thumbsup: :smilewinkgrin:

Amen to that.

 

[Jim1999]

Then they wouldn't be Muslims!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,

Jim