The “Crossless” Gospel at the Crossroads

[webdog]

I just gave you the answer.......... "Why do you not understand what I am saying? {It is} because you cannot hear My word."

That is not a proof text that they are unable to hear the word.

 

[reformedbeliever]

To love one thing over another means choice. That is what love is, it's not forced.

Jesus says they can not hear the word......... I don't see choice in that.

 

[reformedbeliever]

That is not a proof text that they are unable to hear the word.

Lol........... read it. Or maybe the Bible is actually saying something else according to Web?

 

[standingfirminChrist]

It is evident false witness was given.

RB said :
John is not that hard to contact.

If John is not that hard to contact, Lou would have been able to contact him instead of having to talk to his personal assistant.

It is evident John M is not as easy to contact as RB has claimed.

 

[webdog]

Lol........... read it. Or maybe the Bible is actually saying something else according to Web?

That text says only the CANNOT hear...not the means as to WHY they CANNOT hear.

 

[EdSutton]

[Snipped!]

How do I know his intentions? Have you noticed the link to be able to buy his book on his website that he keeps advertising on this BB without paying for advertising?

FTR, Lou Martuneac is certainly not the only individual on the BB to have a link to a 'personal site' in his or her 'tag-line'. However, likewise in fairness, Lou Martuneac is the primary one currently posting in this thread with such a link.

Another poster, has a quote from Judge Paul Pressler, in his tag-line about "a hill to die on", which is also the title of Judge Pressler's book.

While I fully agree that there are some hills of that nature, IMO, this "mole-hill" ain't one of 'em!

Ed

 

[standingfirminChrist]

The Bible says all things were created for God's pleasure. I cannot see God being pleased that any would reject His Son.

 

[reformedbeliever]

It is evident false witness was given.

RB said :
John is not that hard to contact.

If John is not that hard to contact, Lou would have been able to contact him instead of having to talk to his personal assistant.

It is evident John M is not as easy to contact as RB has claimed.

Or it is evident that something else is wrong huh? That is what I was saying.... that something is just not right here. But if you want to say I'm bearing false witness too.......... you have that right. I forgive you too.

 

[reformedbeliever]

That text says only the CANNOT hear...not the means as to WHY they CANNOT hear.

People can not have faith in something they can not hear. If they can not hear it, then it does not exist for them. You said we are created with the ability to have faith in God. Jesus says they can not hear the word......... who is correct web? You or Jesus?

 

[reformedbeliever]

It is evident false witness was given.

RB said :
John is not that hard to contact.

If John is not that hard to contact, Lou would have been able to contact him instead of having to talk to his personal assistant.

It is evident John M is not as easy to contact as RB has claimed.

This would be laughable if it was not so sad.

 

[webdog]

People can not have faith in something they can not hear. If they can not hear it, then it does not exist for them. You said we are created with the ability to have faith in God. Jesus says they can not hear the word......... who is correct web? You or Jesus?

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around...does it exist?

If you say you cannot go to the store because you are sick...does that mean you were created without the ability to go to the store? I'm not understanding the logic you are using that if one "cannot" do something, they were created without the ability to do so.

 

[npetreley]

The Bible says all things were created for God's pleasure. I cannot see God being pleased that any would reject His Son.

So God failed?

Never mind, this belongs in its own thread, but it's still a good question.

 

[reformedbeliever]

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around...does it exist?

If you say you cannot go to the store because you are sick...does that mean you were created without the ability to go to the store? I'm not understanding the logic you are using that if one "cannot" do something, they were created without the ability to do so.

I don't doubt it web.

 

[canadyjd]

I would venture that even you believe that faith being a requirement, and discipleship being a requirement for salvation are not even in the same ballpark.

And no one that I have seen is claiming "comittment to discipleship" is a requirement for salvation.

Faith requires action. Jesus said that a man who hears His words AND acts on them will be like a man who built his house on the solid rock. Those who hear and do not act suffer great destruction.

peace to youraying:

 

[DHK]

If a discussion on the "Crossless" Gospel can be taken up on another thread, then let it be so. From page 12 onward this thread has been filled with accusations from one poster against another, and thus will be closed.