The ACLU is not your friend!!!

[go2church]

Who died and made you the discussion police?

The ACLU is an organization that has been vilified far too long by right wing nut cases, evangelical or otherwise. They don't do anything illegal and fight for what they believe in through the courts. If they lose they lose. When is the last time you heard of a ACLU lawyer losing it and blowing up an abortion clinic?

If you don't like them, fine. Lawyer up and win the case.

 

[777]

The ACLU is an organization that has been vilified far too long by right wing nut cases, evangelical or otherwise.

No, actually "go2church", the ACLU hasn't been vilified enough. You're never going to mainstream THIS communist front group.

They don't do anything illegal and fight for what they believe in through the courts. If they lose they lose.

So brave . So idealistic.

LOL, that entire organization is FULL of corruption. Just look at what and who they "fight for":

Illegal immigrants v. the citizens of Hazelton, PA
importing more known terrorists into the US
Islam's right to exercise "freedom of religion", not Christianity's.

And, if they lose, we pay. If they win, we pay.

When is the last time you heard of a ACLU lawyer losing it and blowing up an abortion clinic?

How often do you think abortion clinics are blown up? The last big thing I've heard was the former director of the Virginia chapter getting busted for (gasp):

Federal agents arrested Charles Rust-Tierney, the former president of the Virginia chapter of the ACLU, Friday in Arlington for allegedly possessing child pornography.

According to a criminal complaint obtained by ABC News, Rust-Tierney allegedly used his e-mail address and credit card to subscribe to and access a child pornography website.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2900174&page=1

kiddie pron, of course. Keep on defendin'...

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Yup. When Go2Church joins the ACLU, that'll REALLY make us look bad.

What a joke.

 

[carpro]

Who died and made you the discussion police?

The ACLU is an organization that has been vilified far too long by right wing nut cases, evangelical or otherwise. They don't do anything illegal and fight for what they believe in through the courts. If they lose they lose. When is the last time you heard of a ACLU lawyer losing it and blowing up an abortion clinic?

If you don't like them, fine. Lawyer up and win the case.

The goal of the aclu is to tear down the institutions of this country using our own Constitution to do it.

They have never truly repented from their early communist roots and seek primarily to harm America or shape it into the immoral Godless society they crave.

They even use public tax dollars to do it.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Reflecting on his early years as the ACLU's Executive Director, Baldwin candidly revealed his original motives and objectives: "I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. It all sums up into one single purpose -- the abolition of dog-eat-dog under which we live. I don't regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United Front road to get it."


http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1579

 

[DQuixote]

The ACLU, a tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organization, is ripping off taxpayer money!!!

http://www.reclaimamerica.org/Pages/NEWS/news.aspx?story=2859

Just ONE example!!! It goes back for YEARS, and continues right up through today!!!

 

[Terry_Herrington]

If crazy right wing christian fundamentalists are against the ACLU...I'm going to find a local a chapter and sign up!

Get me an application while you are at it! :laugh:

 

[Bro. Curtis]

[NYTIMES:] What do you think is the single worst idea in history?

[WATSON:] Without question, ethical monotheism. The idea of one true god. The idea that our life and ethical conduct on earth determines how we will go in the next world. This has been responsible for most of the wars and bigotry in history.



​

This is FALSE. Socialists during the 20th Century killed more people than religious people did in religious wars during the previous 20 centuries - whether they were monotheists or polytheists!

FACT: Marxist-Leninism; Stalinism (in Russia and North Korea and elsewhere); Nazism (which was a sub-sect of socialism, an anti-Marxist form); Maoism; Pol-Potism - and other assorted genocidal socialists, from Castro to Mugabe - killed at least 120 MILLION people, and tortured and wrongfully imprisoned (in gulags and concentration camps and "re-education camps") MILLIONS AND MILLIONS MORE! AND IMPOVERISHED AND STOLE FROM STILL EVEN MORE THAN THAT!

It's one of the GREAT BIG LIES of the Leftist dominated academy that religion has been the world's major source of war-mongering and death. In fact, it's been THE LEFT.....

.....BUT IT GETS WORSE: THE LEFT IS EVEN MORE HYPOCRITICAL, BECAUSE THESE VERY SAME LEFTIST ACADEMICIANS WOULD BE THE LAST TO ARGUE THAT WE ARE NOW ENGAGED IN A RELIGIOUS WAR.



Then again: many argue that Leftism is a religious CULT in ways: its adherents believe in it as a matter of faith, despite the fact that it has failed everywhere and everytime it has ever been employed anywhere in the world. NOW THAT'S FAITH! SURE: Most were slaugtered in the name of their chief prophet Marx (founder of internationalist communist socialism), but many in the name of their anti-christ Hitler (founder of nationalist/racist socialism and anti-Marxist). More HERE and HERE and HERE.[/b]

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2005/12/which-killed-more-people-socialism-or.html



Oh yeah, and before I hit the return button, feel free to check the many links to the many informative sources, so's you guys can actually man up and dispute the facts, instead of turning yellow and saying something uncolorful about the website. I realize the latter is much easier.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

ACLU: NAMBLA, CAIR, ISLAMOFASCISM

(you gotta hit the link foir this one, and you ain't gonna like this site one little bit....but the previous challenge applies here, as well.)


http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/03/aclu_nambla_cai.html

 

[Dragoon68]

If crazy right wing christian fundamentalists are against the ACLU...I'm going to find a local a chapter and sign up!

What if "normal" Christians - perhaps an impossible condition for such a radical belief as Christianity - are firmly against the ACLU because they know that this organization's motives and actions are at serious odds with the fundamentals of our faith?

... If you don't like them, fine. Lawyer up and win the case.

It would be better for the nation if we would "lawyer down" rather than "up". We have become far too legalistic in every venue and that legalism chokes out good sense, costs us all dearly, and forces the will of a few upon the whole.

 

[convicted1]

RE: ACLU is not your friend

I have said for the last year or so, the ACLU is Satan backed, no ands, ifs, or buts about it! Mark my words, someone who is homosexual will try to take membership in a church somewhere and they will turn them away, unless they change their lifestyle. They will become miffed, and have the ACLU take this case before our court system because their "rights" have been infringed upon! I believe everyone, including homosexuals have the same rights as anyone else does, but anytime they are allowed to have a "normal" family setting-two men or two women trying to adopt kids-or trying to be legally married, this is where I draw the line. It's going to come to the point where our courts will make all churches take in people against the rights of that church.

 

[poncho]

Satan backed huh? I thought it was backed by the same folks backing opens borders, mass illegal immigration the NAU, UNESCO, WTO, IMF, World Court and what not. The famous foundations and transnational bussiness. They all seem to share the same "advisors" and contributors anyway.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Sounds like giving money to the ACLU is almost as bad as buying one of Ann Coulter's books.

 

[poncho]

Sounds like giving money to the ACLU is almost as bad as buying one of Ann Coulter's books.

Bingo! We got the righties tearing up one side of the constitution and BoR while the lefties are tearing apart the other side of the constitution and BoR...all the while yellping and blaming each other for it's destruction. About the only thing both sides seem to agree on is big intrusive big brother government is good government.

That's why I believe arguing and debating inside the whole phoney left vs right paradigm is just a waste of time and energy not to mention a giant destraction. I'm sick of listening to the whole mess of em.

Is the ACLU communist? Of course it is! But what of the righties? What do they propose? Why a giant total information surveillence/militarized stasi police state to keep all the newly created little communist comrades safe and sound from the nightmares they all helped to create and unleash on us . Oh puh leeze give me a break. :BangHead:

(well how'd I do that time Bro Curtis, was that less combative and snooty?) :smilewinkgrin:

 

[DQuixote]

You sure made a lot of assumptions, poncho. As a follower of Jesus Christ I am neither right nor left, up or down, conservative or liberal. My manual is between Genesis 1:1 and Revelation 22:21. Rightly dividing the Word of Truth, I march on, my viewpoint sharpened by His.

 

[Terry_Herrington]

Sounds like giving money to the ACLU is almost as bad as buying one of Ann Coulter's books.

These things are almost opposite. The ACLU's function is to promote free speech; Coulter is all about oppressing any speech that is not ultra right-wing.

 

[Terry_Herrington]

You sure made a lot of assumptions, poncho. As a follower of Jesus Christ I am neither right nor left, up or down, conservative or liberal. My manual is between Genesis 1:1 and Revelation 22:21. Rightly dividing the Word of Truth, I march on, my viewpoint sharpened by His.

To actually believe this about yourself is self-deception run amock.

Many people say the same things, yet end up with vastly different viewpoints.

 

[poncho]

You sure made a lot of assumptions, poncho. As a follower of Jesus Christ I am neither right nor left, up or down, conservative or liberal. My manual is between Genesis 1:1 and Revelation 22:21. Rightly dividing the Word of Truth, I march on, my viewpoint sharpened by His.

One must first be given all the truth to rightly divide it. For the most part our past and present politicians and historians have given us nothing but lies and half truths. Not to mention all the events and 'secret' history our mainstream media never report on or talk about. It's kind of like trying to make sense out of non sense, or trying to make a good meal when half of your ingredients are corupt.

 

[Baptist Believer]

I have said for the last year or so, the ACLU is Satan backed, no ands, ifs, or buts about it! Mark my words, someone who is homosexual will try to take membership in a church somewhere and they will turn them away, unless they change their lifestyle. They will become miffed, and have the ACLU take this case before our court system because their "rights" have been infringed upon!

No they won't. The doctrine of separation of church and state prevents that... and the ACLU is the leading secular supporter of that doctrine.

Ironically, well-meaning Christians tend to blast separation of church and state which protects religious institutions from government control of their membership policies.

 

[2 Timothy2:1-4]

The only thing the ACLU protects is the socialist agenda.