THE ANGELS.

[Alex2165]

THE ANGELS.


Angels of the Lord very often mentioned in the Bible. They figure in the Bible under different types and under different names and descriptions. Who actually they are? According to Biblical texts, they are all servants of the Lord, good and bad alike.


Angels serve not only GOD but they serve also and humans.


Hebrews 1.14

14."Are they (angels) not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?"


I think the very first angel was mentioned in Genesis called as Cherubim. In the verse below Cherubim depicted as a guardian angel.


Genesis 3.24

24."He (GOD) drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden He placed the CHERUBIM and a sword flaming and turning to guard the way to the Tree of Life."


Cherubims also depicted in the Bible as two angles made of gold on the top of the Ark of the Covenant, above them GOD appeared to the high priest on certain occasions.


The Bible also mentioned certain SERAPHS.


Isaiah 6.2-3.5-7
2.SERAPHS (angels) were in attendance above Him, each had six wings, with two they covered their faces, and with two they covered their feet, and with two they flew.


It is hard to tell what the different between Seraphs and other angels. But it seems that Seraphs some kind of unusual angels who have many wings.


MESSENGERS. Angels also serve as messengers to deliver the Word of GOD to individuals and to the group of people (Genesis 16.7-13, 21.17-18. Hagar) (Genesis 31.11-13, 32.1-2. Jacob) (Exodus 3.2, Acts 7.30. Moses) (Numbers 22.22-27.31-35. Balaam) (Judges 2.1-5. Israel) (Judges 6.11.23. Gideon) (Judges 13.3-7.9-20. Manoah and his wife) (1Kings 19.5-8. Elijah) (2Kings 1.3-4.15. Elijah) (Daniel 9.20-27. Angel Gabriel) (Zechariah 1.9-14.18-19, 2.1-5, 3.1-7, 4.1-14, 5.5-11, 6.4-6).

(Matthew 1.20-21, 2.13.19-20, 28.1-8, Mark 16.5-7 Joseph and Mary) (Luke 1.11-20.26-38. Angel Gabriel, Zachariah, and Mary) (Luke 2.8-15.21. Shepherds) (Luke 24.1-9. Two women in the tomb of Christ) (John 20.11-13. Mary) (Acts 1.10-11. Men of Galilee) (Acts 8.26. Philip) (Acts 10.1-8.22. Cornelius)



PUNISMENT AND DESTRUCTION. Angels also serve the Lord as a tool of destruction (Genesis 19.1-26. Sodom and Gomorrah) (2Samuel 24.16, 1Chrosnicles 15.18. Jerusalem) (2Kings 19.35, 2Chronicles 32.20-21, Isaiah 37.36. Assyrians) (Acts.12.21-23. Herod)


Psalm 78.49

49."He sent upon them His burning anger, fury, and indignation, and trouble, a band of *destroying angels." (KSB).



KJV, Russian - "evil angels."

NRSV, ESV - "a company of destroying angels."

NIV - "a band of destroying angels."

Gideons - "angels of destruction."

GNB - "He caused them great distress by pouring His anger and fierce range, which came as messengers of death."



SAVIORS. In this instance angel appeared to Abraham to stop him from killing his son Isaac (Genesis 22.11-12.15-18). Here angel spoke to Abraham in the name of GOD. It would be no mistake to assume or suggest that the Angel of GOD Who spoke to Abraham and to other individuals actually was Jesus Christ, because He is also a Servant of His Father GOD.


Daniel 3.24-25.28. Appearance of the Angel to Nebuchadnezzar. Daniel and his friends saved by the Angel of GOD.
25."He answered and said, "Look! I see four men losses and walking about in the midst of the fire without harm, and the appearance of the forth is like *a son of the gods!" (KSB, NIV, ESV)


NRSV: "and the fourth has the appearance of a god."

GNB: "and a fourth one looks like an angel."

KJV, Gideons, Russian: "and a fourth looks like as a Son of GOD."



LIBERATORS.


(Acts 5.17-20. Imprisoned Apostles of Christ) (Acts 12.7-10. Peter)



SOLDIERS.


(Revelation 12.7-9. War in Heaven between Angel Michael and Dragon).



HEALERS.


(John 5.2-4. pool Bethzatha)



GUIDES. Here GOD sent His Angel to guide Israel in the desert and issued a warning (Exodus 23.20-23, 32.34, 33.2) (Numbers 20.16).


Exodus 23.20-21
20."I am going to send an Angel in front of you to guard you on the way and to bring you to the place that I have prepared.

21.Pay attention to Him and listen to His voice, do not rebel against Him, He will not pardon your wrong, My name is in Him." (Exodus 32.34, 33.2) (Numbers 20.16).


The words, "My name is in Him" relate only to Jesus Christ, and the name of that Angel is GOD. Jesus Christ is the Image of GOD in His full Being, and so Jesus is also GOD, the Angel-GOD Who represents GOD in His Own Being. Jesus is the Creation of GOD-Father, Jesus has beginning but no end.



GUARDIANS?


Matthew 18.1-10-14

10."Take care that you do not despise one of these little ones, I tell you, in Heaven their angels continually see the face of My Father in Heaven."


A half of Matthew 18 talks about children and humble men. Matthew make good comparison between innocent children and humble adults, both kinds are submissive, gentle, compliant, and meek.

What then these words mean, "their angels." Are they guardian angels of children and humble men? Or may be the souls of children and humble men see or will see the face of GOD in Heaven? Is it right to call humans as angels?



HUMANS BECAME ANGELS AFTER DEATH.


Luke 20.35-36

35.but those who are considered worthy of a place in that age and in the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage.

36.Indeed, they cannot die anymore, because they are like angels, and are children of GOD, being children of the resurrection."

(Matthew 22.23-30) (Mark 12.18-25) (Luke 20.27-36)



Do we have right judge fallen angels?


1Corinthians 6.3

3."Do you not know that we are to judge angels, to say nothing of ordinary matters?"



ANGELS OF ABYSS.


Revelation 9.11

11."They have as king over them the angel of the abyss, his name in Hebrew is *Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name *Apollyon."


("Abaddon and Apollyon." These names translated as "Destroyer," most likely means as destroyer of life.)



Revelation of John mentioned numerous angels who performed many different functions and duties, but it will be impossible to mention all of it here on this page.


"To the angel of the church..." Revelation 2.1.8.12.18. NIV explained as "messenger."


One particular Bible in one church, the type of the Bible I do not remember, read in those places of Revelation not " to the angels of the church" but "to the servants of the church." I like this last translation better, because it precisely indicates the matter and definition of the word angels, which in actuality means servant.


Assuming that angels have no gender, the Bible on the other hand usually depicts angels as males. But in some places of the Bible we can find also and female angels.


Zechariah 5.9

9.Then I lifted up my eyes and looked, and there two women were coming out with the wind in their wings, and they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the ephah between the Earth and the heavens.


I believe that description of angels by their gender presented for us to better understand the nature of angels and events their involved in. Same thing can be said about GOD Who always presented to us as a Male, but in reality I thing that GOD has no actual gender.

 

[Quantrill]

THE ANGELS.


Angels of the Lord very often mentioned in the Bible. They figure in the Bible under different types and under different names and descriptions. Who actually they are? According to Biblical texts, they are all servants of the Lord, good and bad alike.


Angels serve not only GOD but they serve also and humans.


Hebrews 1.14

14."Are they (angels) not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?"


I think the very first angel was mentioned in Genesis called as Cherubim. In the verse below Cherubim depicted as a guardian angel.


Genesis 3.24

24."He (GOD) drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden He placed the CHERUBIM and a sword flaming and turning to guard the way to the Tree of Life."


Cherubims also depicted in the Bible as two angles made of gold on the top of the Ark of the Covenant, above them GOD appeared to the high priest on certain occasions.


The Bible also mentioned certain SERAPHS.


Isaiah 6.2-3.5-7
2.SERAPHS (angels) were in attendance above Him, each had six wings, with two they covered their faces, and with two they covered their feet, and with two they flew.


It is hard to tell what the different between Seraphs and other angels. But it seems that Seraphs some kind of unusual angels who have many wings.


MESSENGERS. Angels also serve as messengers to deliver the Word of GOD to individuals and to the group of people (Genesis 16.7-13, 21.17-18. Hagar) (Genesis 31.11-13, 32.1-2. Jacob) (Exodus 3.2, Acts 7.30. Moses) (Numbers 22.22-27.31-35. Balaam) (Judges 2.1-5. Israel) (Judges 6.11.23. Gideon) (Judges 13.3-7.9-20. Manoah and his wife) (1Kings 19.5-8. Elijah) (2Kings 1.3-4.15. Elijah) (Daniel 9.20-27. Angel Gabriel) (Zechariah 1.9-14.18-19, 2.1-5, 3.1-7, 4.1-14, 5.5-11, 6.4-6).

(Matthew 1.20-21, 2.13.19-20, 28.1-8, Mark 16.5-7 Joseph and Mary) (Luke 1.11-20.26-38. Angel Gabriel, Zachariah, and Mary) (Luke 2.8-15.21. Shepherds) (Luke 24.1-9. Two women in the tomb of Christ) (John 20.11-13. Mary) (Acts 1.10-11. Men of Galilee) (Acts 8.26. Philip) (Acts 10.1-8.22. Cornelius)



PUNISMENT AND DESTRUCTION. Angels also serve the Lord as a tool of destruction (Genesis 19.1-26. Sodom and Gomorrah) (2Samuel 24.16, 1Chrosnicles 15.18. Jerusalem) (2Kings 19.35, 2Chronicles 32.20-21, Isaiah 37.36. Assyrians) (Acts.12.21-23. Herod)


Psalm 78.49

49."He sent upon them His burning anger, fury, and indignation, and trouble, a band of *destroying angels." (KSB).



KJV, Russian - "evil angels."

NRSV, ESV - "a company of destroying angels."

NIV - "a band of destroying angels."

Gideons - "angels of destruction."

GNB - "He caused them great distress by pouring His anger and fierce range, which came as messengers of death."



SAVIORS. In this instance angel appeared to Abraham to stop him from killing his son Isaac (Genesis 22.11-12.15-18). Here angel spoke to Abraham in the name of GOD. It would be no mistake to assume or suggest that the Angel of GOD Who spoke to Abraham and to other individuals actually was Jesus Christ, because He is also a Servant of His Father GOD.


Daniel 3.24-25.28. Appearance of the Angel to Nebuchadnezzar. Daniel and his friends saved by the Angel of GOD.
25."He answered and said, "Look! I see four men losses and walking about in the midst of the fire without harm, and the appearance of the forth is like *a son of the gods!" (KSB, NIV, ESV)


NRSV: "and the fourth has the appearance of a god."

GNB: "and a fourth one looks like an angel."

KJV, Gideons, Russian: "and a fourth looks like as a Son of GOD."



LIBERATORS.


(Acts 5.17-20. Imprisoned Apostles of Christ) (Acts 12.7-10. Peter)



SOLDIERS.


(Revelation 12.7-9. War in Heaven between Angel Michael and Dragon).



HEALERS.


(John 5.2-4. pool Bethzatha)



GUIDES. Here GOD sent His Angel to guide Israel in the desert and issued a warning (Exodus 23.20-23, 32.34, 33.2) (Numbers 20.16).


Exodus 23.20-21
20."I am going to send an Angel in front of you to guard you on the way and to bring you to the place that I have prepared.

21.Pay attention to Him and listen to His voice, do not rebel against Him, He will not pardon your wrong, My name is in Him." (Exodus 32.34, 33.2) (Numbers 20.16).


The words, "My name is in Him" relate only to Jesus Christ, and the name of that Angel is GOD. Jesus Christ is the Image of GOD in His full Being, and so Jesus is also GOD, the Angel-GOD Who represents GOD in His Own Being. Jesus is the Creation of GOD-Father, Jesus has beginning but no end.



GUARDIANS?


Matthew 18.1-10-14

10."Take care that you do not despise one of these little ones, I tell you, in Heaven their angels continually see the face of My Father in Heaven."


A half of Matthew 18 talks about children and humble men. Matthew make good comparison between innocent children and humble adults, both kinds are submissive, gentle, compliant, and meek.

What then these words mean, "their angels." Are they guardian angels of children and humble men? Or may be the souls of children and humble men see or will see the face of GOD in Heaven? Is it right to call humans as angels?



HUMANS BECAME ANGELS AFTER DEATH.


Luke 20.35-36

35.but those who are considered worthy of a place in that age and in the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage.

36.Indeed, they cannot die anymore, because they are like angels, and are children of GOD, being children of the resurrection."

(Matthew 22.23-30) (Mark 12.18-25) (Luke 20.27-36)



Do we have right judge fallen angels?


1Corinthians 6.3

3."Do you not know that we are to judge angels, to say nothing of ordinary matters?"



ANGELS OF ABYSS.


Revelation 9.11

11."They have as king over them the angel of the abyss, his name in Hebrew is *Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name *Apollyon."


("Abaddon and Apollyon." These names translated as "Destroyer," most likely means as destroyer of life.)



Revelation of John mentioned numerous angels who performed many different functions and duties, but it will be impossible to mention all of it here on this page.


"To the angel of the church..." Revelation 2.1.8.12.18. NIV explained as "messenger."


One particular Bible in one church, the type of the Bible I do not remember, read in those places of Revelation not " to the angels of the church" but "to the servants of the church." I like this last translation better, because it precisely indicates the matter and definition of the word angels, which in actuality means servant.


Assuming that angels have no gender, the Bible on the other hand usually depicts angels as males. But in some places of the Bible we can find also and female angels.


Zechariah 5.9

9.Then I lifted up my eyes and looked, and there two women were coming out with the wind in their wings, and they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the ephah between the Earth and the heavens.


I believe that description of angels by their gender presented for us to better understand the nature of angels and events their involved in. Same thing can be said about GOD Who always presented to us as a Male, but in reality I thing that GOD has no actual gender.

I don't see how you identify the 'two women' in (Zechariah 5:9) as angels. Angels are always masculine.

And, God does have gender. Masculine. He.

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[Alex2165]

You wrote:
"I don't see how you identify the 'two women' in (Zechariah 5:9) as angels. Angels are always masculine.."


Because it is written, "two women were coming out with the wind in their wings, and they had wings like the wings of a stork."


If they are not angels, then who they are? Did you see any women on Earth with two wings on their back? Unless these are the children who dressed like angels for their performance.


You wrote:
"And, God does have gender. Masculine. He."


Well, if you like to think about GOD in this way, it is fine with me. Yes, we call GOD He in order to identify Him and presenting Him in such a way that we can understand. Otherwise how can we present Him and relate to Him?


But you think about GOD from the human perspective and not from the spiritual aspect of His Being. In spiritual aspect He is not He, but just GOD, He has no particular gender, color, nationality, height, or even form.


GOD represented Himself in Jesus Christ as Male gender and identified by humans as Male, and here is no surprise, because physical Adam was created first and in the image of GOD.


Actually I doubt that Adam had any gender at the beginning of his creation, because when GOD created him He appointed him as custodian of His garden, and no other purpose for Adam's existence was mentioned at this point in the Bible.


So Adam was alone and it seems that it was not in GOD plan to create any more human beings on the Earth.


And perhaps all the living creations of GOD on Earth at that time probably created as a single item, each of them unique in its kind and in form of life.


Only when GOD created from Adam female Eve, I think at this moment GOD created genders for Adam and for Eve, and their purpose of existence was change, particularly for Adam, from custodian of the garden to a tiller of the earth and as reproduction source of humankind together with Eve.


So at this point in time Adam became a true man (he) with his specific own gender.


Concerning GOD and angels, why they need "Masculine" gender, they are not human physical beings with muscles. By saying that GOD is masculine He, you reducing Him to a mere human being.


Is it possible by muscles alone to create the Earth and the universe and everything what exists in them?


Or may be the Spirit of GOD and His angels have another source of power that enables them to have unlimited extraordinary powers?


Is it by muscle GOD created Spiritual Beings - Jesus Christ and angels?


Psalm 104.4
4."He makes the winds (spirits) His messengers, flaming fire His ministers." (KSB, NRSV, GNB)


KJV, Gideons: "Who maketh His angels spirits, His minister a flaming fire."

NIV: "He makes winds His messengers, flames of fire His servants."

ESV: "He makes His messengers winds, His minister a flaming fire."

Gideons: "Who makes His angels spirits, His ministers a flame of fire."

Russian: "You creating spirits by Your angels, by Your servants flame of fire."


From the verse above it is look like that creation of the spiritual beings is not done by muscles but most likely by the power of the Spirit, a Spiritual Power.


In this case identity of GOD as He, cannot be taken literally but as figure of speech in order to relate to Him according to our physical nature and according to our own understanding of our physical world.


Still, we will call GOD He, because we have no other words to describe Him otherwise.


Concerning angels, it is written:


Mark 12.25
25."When they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in Heaven."

(Matthew 22.23-30) (Mark 12.18-25) (Luke 20.27-36).


If angels do not marry why they need gender?

 

[Quantrill]

You wrote:
"I don't see how you identify the 'two women' in (Zechariah 5:9) as angels. Angels are always masculine.."


Because it is written, "two women were coming out with the wind in their wings, and they had wings like the wings of a stork."


If they are not angels, then who they are? Did you see any women on Earth with two wings on their back? Unless these are the children who dressed like angels for their performance.


You wrote:
"And, God does have gender. Masculine. He."


Well, if you like to think about GOD in this way, it is fine with me. Yes, we call GOD He in order to identify Him and presenting Him in such a way that we can understand. Otherwise how can we present Him and relate to Him?


But you think about GOD from the human perspective and not from the spiritual aspect of His Being. In spiritual aspect He is not He, but just GOD, He has no particular gender, color, nationality, height, or even form.


GOD represented Himself in Jesus Christ as Male gender and identified by humans as Male, and here is no surprise, because physical Adam was created first and in the image of GOD.


Actually I doubt that Adam had any gender at the beginning of his creation, because when GOD created him He appointed him as custodian of His garden, and no other purpose for Adam's existence was mentioned at this point in the Bible.


So Adam was alone and it seems that it was not in GOD plan to create any more human beings on the Earth.


And perhaps all the living creations of GOD on Earth at that time probably created as a single item, each of them unique in its kind and in form of life.


Only when GOD created from Adam female Eve, I think at this moment GOD created genders for Adam and for Eve, and their purpose of existence was change, particularly for Adam, from custodian of the garden to a tiller of the earth and as reproduction source of humankind together with Eve.


So at this point in time Adam became a true man (he) with his specific own gender.


Concerning GOD and angels, why they need "Masculine" gender, they are not human physical beings with muscles. By saying that GOD is masculine He, you reducing Him to a mere human being.


Is it possible by muscles alone to create the Earth and the universe and everything what exists in them?


Or may be the Spirit of GOD and His angels have another source of power that enables them to have unlimited extraordinary powers?


Is it by muscle GOD created Spiritual Beings - Jesus Christ and angels?


Psalm 104.4
4."He makes the winds (spirits) His messengers, flaming fire His ministers." (KSB, NRSV, GNB)


KJV, Gideons: "Who maketh His angels spirits, His minister a flaming fire."

NIV: "He makes winds His messengers, flames of fire His servants."

ESV: "He makes His messengers winds, His minister a flaming fire."

Gideons: "Who makes His angels spirits, His ministers a flame of fire."

Russian: "You creating spirits by Your angels, by Your servants flame of fire."


From the verse above it is look like that creation of the spiritual beings is not done by muscles but most likely by the power of the Spirit, a Spiritual Power.


In this case identity of GOD as He, cannot be taken literally but as figure of speech in order to relate to Him according to our physical nature and according to our own understanding of our physical world.


Still, we will call GOD He, because we have no other words to describe Him otherwise.


Concerning angels, it is written:


Mark 12.25
25."When they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in Heaven."

(Matthew 22.23-30) (Mark 12.18-25) (Luke 20.27-36).


If angels do not marry why they need gender?

They are not angels because angels are masculine. There are other forms of evil other than fallen angels. Demons for example.

I think of God as masculine because He is masculine. Adam is created in the image of God. Your theory that Adam had no genitals is ridiculous. I suppose you think Christ had no genitals either. Christ is the express, the very exact image of God. A Man, masculine. (Heb. 1:3)

The Bible is the revealed Word of God. We call God, God, because He has revealed Himself to us.

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[kyredneck]

9."He sent upon them His burning anger, fury, and indignation, and trouble, a band of *destroying angels." (KSB).

1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having seven plagues....Rev 15

 

[Alex2165]

Galatians 3.28
28.There is neither Jew nor Greek (Genile), there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female (Matthew 22.30) (Mark 12.25) (Luke 20.33-36) (Galatians 3.28), you are all one in Christ Jesus.


Jesus Christ in flesh appeared in male gender.


Jesus Christ in Holy Spirit has no gender.


This is why it has been stated that in Spiritual Christ we are spiritual beings, and as spiritual beings we have no gender but all one in Christ.

 

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Galatians 3.28
28.There is neither Jew nor Greek (Genile), there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female (Matthew 22.30) (Mark 12.25) (Luke 20.33-36) (Galatians 3.28), you are all one in Christ Jesus.


Jesus Christ in flesh appeared in male gender.


Jesus Christ in Holy Spirit has no gender.


This is why it has been stated that in Spiritual Christ we are spiritual beings, and as spiritual beings we have no gender but all one in Christ.

Just because we are all one in Christ doesn't mean we don't have a gender. Just because God is Spirit, doesn't mean God doesn't have a gender.

Adam was created in the image of God. Male. Jesus Christ is the very exact image of God in every way. (Heb. 1:3) Male.

This is the problem the supposed 'transgender' people have when they do things to their body to change it to match an opposite gender. They cannot change the gender of their spirit. They just make themselves a freak. A male spirit living in a womans body or vice versa.

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[atpollard]

my 2 cents on angelology:

[1 Timothy 1:3-7 NASB]
As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines, nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than [furthering] the administration of God which is by faith. But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion, wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.​

 

[Alex2165]

The statement that Atpollard presented can be literally applied to any discussion.


In such a case will be nothing to discuss on this forum or anywhere else.


Is it also applied to all the authors whose verses I presented in my post concerning genders and angels? It will make them look incompetent in their statements, which is of course will be really ridiculous to assume.


If passages of the Bible can convince you guys, nothing will.


But I completely agree with you concerning gays, transsexual, and other many different forms of sex change or no sex, such practices and transformation are ungodly and deeply disgusting and revolting.


Form my point of view it is a mistake to mix physical and spiritual together, and identify spiritual as physical or wise versa. They are two completely different worlds, and the passages I presented reveal the differences between spiritual and physical entities, not including many other statements of the Bible I did not mentioned yet.


But it does not matter now, I will stay with my opinion, and you guys can think whatever you wont.

 

[Quantrill]

The statement that Atpollard presented can be literally applied to any discussion.


In such a case will be nothing to discuss on this forum or anywhere else.


Is it also applied to all the authors whose verses I presented in my post concerning genders and angels? It will make them look incompetent in their statements, which is of course will be really ridiculous to assume.


If passages of the Bible can convince you guys, nothing will.


But I completely agree with you concerning gays, transsexual, and other many different forms of sex change or no sex, such practices and transformation are ungodly and deeply disgusting and revolting.


Form my point of view it is a mistake to mix physical and spiritual together, and identify spiritual as physical or wise versa. They are two completely different worlds, and the passages I presented reveal the differences between spiritual and physical entities, not including many other statements of the Bible I did not mentioned yet.


But it does not matter now, I will stay with my opinion, and you guys can think whatever you wont.

The passages in the Bible speak to God as He. The passages in the Bible speak to Adam as in the image of God, and Adam is a he. The passages in the Bible speak to Christ as He, the very image of God. (Heb. 1:3)

Don't buy into this platonic understanding of spiritual/physical, as much of Christianity has. Spirit and physical were brought together when God created the universe and man.

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