The Battle for Spurgeon

[J.D.]

Why do arminians and "biblicists" fight so hard to make Charles Haddon Spurgeon their ally in the Calvinist/Arminian debate? He was a full 5-pointer, and made no bones about it. Why do some of you desire so desparately to make him into an arminian? He is but a man, is he not?

 

[Bob Farnaby]

I think the opinion of Spurgeon and his preaching has been sevearly downgraded in recent years.

Regards
Bob

 

[pinoybaptist]

Originally posted by J.D.:
Why do arminians and "biblicists" fight so hard to make Charles Haddon Spurgeon their ally in the Calvinist/Arminian debate? He was a full 5-pointer, and made no bones about it. Why do some of you desire so desparately to make him into an arminian? He is but a man, is he not?

Mayybe because.....misery loves company ?

 

[rsr]

I am not aware that anyone you would take seriously has accused Spurgeon of Arminianism. Could you elaborate?

 

[Calvibaptist]

Originally posted by Bob Farnaby:
I think the opinion of Spurgeon and his preaching has been sevearly downgraded in recent years.

Regards
Bob

Bob, were you attempting to make a pun referring to the Downgrade Controversy? If so, you did a good job!

 

[mcdirector]

Originally posted by rsr:
I am not aware that anyone you would take seriously has accused Spurgeon of Arminianism. Could you elaborate?

I haven't heard anyone even try to make this connection, but maybe I've missed something. OR maybe what I understand about Spurgeon has colored what I've heard and read. I'd love to see a bit of elaboration too.

 

[Plain Old Bill]

Although I am not a Calvinist as in 5 point Calvinist,I am not a 5 point Arminian either.I read more from those who are Calvinist Writers(Spugeon,Gill,Calvin,Barnes) then from others in the classical writings.So what, I keep the good and through out the bad.Last I checked this is a free country and I am free to do my reading as I please.I consider myself a BIBLICIST.I know according to many Calvinist that makes me Arminian so what,they are not the jello sheriffs of the world.I don't know anything they do that keeps anybody from getting saved,they are not cultic so I can live and fellowship with them.

 

[Rhetorician]

Just for the mix:

One reason Spurgeon was a Soteriologic Calvinist was that he read with great love the old Puritans and their theologies. They influenced him greatly.

sdg!

rd

 

[PastorSBC1303]

Originally posted by Plain Old Bill:
they are not the jello sheriffs of the world.

Is that a Spurgeon quote or a Plain Old Bill original

 

[Plain Old Bill]

Actually the jello sheriff came from Bill Cosby in one of his comedy routines I heard about 30 years ago.

 

[Bob Farnaby]

Originally posted by Calvibaptist:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bob Farnaby:
I think the opinion of Spurgeon and his preaching has been sevearly downgraded in recent years.

Regards
Bob

Bob, were you attempting to make a pun referring to the Downgrade Controversy? If so, you did a good job!

</font>[/QUOTE]In part, yes, but also there is the point that many claim Spergeon simply because he is a major Baptist figure in the not too distant past. Difficult to think of another with such a high profile except for maybe Billy Graham. And many make the claim, association withoutreally reading what he wrote, or by 'cherry picking' bits that appeal to their point of view. He preached, taught for quite a period of time, and somewhere there will be someting that can be quoted, or mis-quoted, tomake a point.

Regards
Bob