The Bernie Supporters

[Salty]

Just curious -
Of those strong Bernie Sanders supporters
In general, how do you think they will vote in November

Clinton
Trump
Jill Stein
other
Not vote?

so if the Sanders do not vote for Clinton- how much influence do you think they will have on the election?

 

[Crabtownboy]

Of those who vote I believe the majority will vote for Hillary.

 

[Revmitchell]

Ask Hillary, she seems to know what they are doing. You know those "basement dwellers" are very transparent to her.

 

[InTheLight]

Most of them will grudgingly come around and vote for Hillary. There will be some that will go for Stein. Sanders is out campaigning for Hillary and he will deliver the votes for the Dems.

 

[Zaac]

Most of them will grudgingly come around and vote for Hillary. There will be some that will go for Stein. [Bold]Sanders is out campaigning for Hillary and he will deliver the votes for the Dems.[/bold]

Pretty much. They'll realize that their alternative if they think they've got to support one of the two major candidates is a no brainer for their issues.


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[HankD]

Lets use our brains - Most Bernie followers WILL NOT vote for "establishment" Hillary. She is exactly what they don't want!

I watched a couple of his rally type gatherings and the crowd went TOTALLY bonkers when he bad mouthed Hillary saying she was an establishment pariah, incompetent, not fit to be president, etc...

He is not a true Democrat but an admitted Socialist and that was what most of his followers were nurtured on all the way up from K through Grade 12.

IMO most of them will stay home and lick their wounds after the super-delegate robbery and farce - a few will vote for Trump a true anti-establishment candidate. His major attraction is/was his statement "the primary was rigged".

The DNC WILL NEVER admit it but they are angst ridden with the fear of the Bernie orphans turning on the DEM party.

They are in a dilemma - should we push "get out to vote" thereby causing the orphans to vote for Trump - or not thereby losing some of the lazy voters.

No matter who wins the election we are at great risk.

Each of us involved with America's politic has to choose what we consider the lesser of two evils.

My opinion of course. My gut says Hillary will win.

HankD (An admitted deplorable who clings to his Bible and guns)

 

[Salty]

but why is Sanders campaigning for Hillary?

Is it because if he doesn't, he will not get any plush committee assignment, in the next Congress?

 

[InTheLight]

No matter who wins the election we are at great risk.

True.

Each of us involved with America's politic has to choose what we consider the lesser of two evils.

False. As Christians we should never choose evil. This is moral relativism.

 

[HankD]

but why is Sanders campaigning for Hillary?

Is it because if he doesn't, he will not get any plush committee assignment, in the next Congress?

Like everyone else he has caved in to the establishment machine.

He may not have much time left on planet earth but he certainly does not want to be a food stamp recipient, lose his pension, etc... while he puts in his sunset years.

He must bow to the queen and kiss her ring.

HankD

 

[HankD]

True.



False. As Christians we should ever choose evil. This is moral relativism.

So say you.

HankD

 

[Zaac]

Lets use our brains - Most Bernie followers WILL NOT vote for "establishment" Hillary. She is exactly what they don't want!

I watched a couple of his rally type gatherings and the crowd went TOTALLY bonkers when he bad mouthed Hillary saying she was an establishment pariah, incompetent, not fit to be president, etc...

He is not a true Democrat but an admitted Socialist and that was what most of his followers were nurtured on all the way up from K through Grade 12.

IMO most of them will stay home and lick their wounds after the super-delegate robbery and farce - a few will vote for Trump a true anti-establishment candidate. His major attraction is/was his statement "the primary was rigged".

The DNC WILL NEVER admit it but they are angst ridden with the fear of the Bernie orphans turning on the DEM party.

They are in a dilemma - should we push "get out to vote" thereby causing the orphans to vote for Trump - or not thereby losing some of the lazy voters.

No matter who wins the election we are at great risk.

Each of us involved with America's politic has to choose what we consider the lesser of two evils.

My opinion of course. My gut says Hillary will win.

HankD (An admitted deplorable who clings to his Bible and guns)

I have ALWAYS wholeheartedly rejected this notion. I think it's an offense to God and perhaps one of the greatest reasons why the country is morally bankrupt.

When you've got Christians UNREPENTANTLY basically telling folks that evil is okay(just hold your nose and support it), then there shouldn't be any complaints from said Christians about the increase of wickedness throughout the country.

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Mat. 24:12

 

[HankD]

I have ALWAYS wholeheartedly rejected this notion. I think it's an offense to God and perhaps one of the greatest reasons why the country is morally bankrupt.

When you've got Christians UNREPENTANTLY basically telling folks that evil is okay(just hold your nose and support it), then there shouldn't be any complaints from said Christians about the increase of wickedness throughout the country.

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Mat. 24:12

You are entitled to your opinion.

BUT
Do you pay your taxes?

To a nation which promotes the legal murder of babies?

Therefor you support that government and its evil.

HankD

 

[InTheLight]

So say you.

HankD

1 Thess. 5:19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not treat prophecies with contempt 21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, 22 reject every kind of evil.

Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

Psalm 97:10 Let those who love the Lord hate evil,for he guards the lives of his faithful ones and delivers them from the hand of the wicked.

Psalm 34:14 Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.

 

[Zaac]

You are entitled to your opinion.

BUT
Do you pay your taxes?

To a nation which promotes the legal murder of babies?

Therefor you support that government and its evil.

HankD

Nice try. But the word of God says to give to Caesar what is Caesar's. That ain't support. That's the government taking back what is already belongs to it. There won't be any dollar bills in heaven.

At no point does Scripture say to support evil or anything that is against God. This making excuses for supporting evil is again is why evil is flourishing.

 

[Alcott]

At no point does Scripture say to support evil or anything that isagainst God. This making excuses for supporting evil is again is why evil is flourishing.

What bunk! Were the taxes the early Christians were instructed to pay not used to support an army that tortured and killed them?

 

[InTheLight]

What bunk! Were the taxes the early Christians were instructed to pay not used to support an army that tortured and killed them?

Jesus Pays Taxes

24 After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma temple tax came to Peter and asked, “Doesn’t your teacher pay the temple tax?”

25 “Yes, he does,” he replied.

When Peter came into the house, Jesus was the first to speak. “What do you think, Simon?” he asked. “From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes—from their own children or from others?”

26 “From others,” Peter answered.

“Then the children are exempt,” Jesus said to him. 27 “But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours.”

Matthew 17: 24-27

 

[HankD]

All of a sudden now the armchair theologians have pronounced for us what is evil and what is not evil in the political decisions we make in life - render unto Caesar's that which is Caesar's.

OK I can agree to that. I will render to Caesar that which is Caesars and vote my own conscience not someone elses opinionated conscience and then answer at at the Bema seat not to the opinionated wrath of another human being (apart from the God-man Jesus Christ).

From now on my choice , even if it changes, I will not reveal except to say that it will be pro-life and is even within the possibility of a Constitution Party write-in.

The Constitution Party has a VERY clear pro-life platform

HankD

 

[Zaac]

What bunk! Were the taxes the early Christians were instructed to pay not used to support an army that tortured and killed them?

So are you insinuating that Jesus, because he paid taxes was a supporter of evil?

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[HankD]

So are you insinuating that Jesus, because he paid taxes was a supporter of evil?

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You are the one who just said it.

HankD

 

[Alcott]

So are you insinuating that Jesus, because he paid taxes was a supporter of evil?

Yep. What are you saying? Just what did the taxes he paid support?