The best Bible prophecy book to use to teach Sunday School

[evangelist6589]

Church is using this one Charting the End Times and I like it as its a easy read with lots of discussion and Q&A. This is one area where Reformed seem to have missed the point whom often ignore prophecy not to reveal their Post/Amil, and or Preterist views. But this does not include Reformed whom are Reformed in Soteriology but Dispensational in eschatology like Mac.

Is this a book your church has also used? Or what ones? What makes it interesting are all the charts, tables, graphs and the like as well as his hard and Biblical defense. Hank Hanagraaf always picks on Lahaye, but its not like he is the worlds expert with only one book published on the subject while Lahaye has a dozen of them. Like David Jeremiah & John MacArthur, Lahaye knows what he is talking about.

Why do most churches ignore prophecy, especially when there are FIVE TIMES more prophecy scriptures for Christ's second coming than his first, and or references to the second coming appear in 23/27 NT books? Perhaps they ignore it because of ignorance. But I tell you the King is Coming soon and he would rather us spend our time preparing for this coming than debating all the secondary areas of theology such as MUSIC, Alcoholic Beverages, & Bible Translations.

 

[Revmitchell]

Try your Bible.

 

[Rippon]

Lahaye knows what he is talking about.

Oh no. Lahaye is the last person to go to for eschatological purposes.

 

[evangelist6589]

Oh no. Lahaye is the last person to go to for eschatological purposes.

Have you read the book I mentioned?

 

[evangelist6589]

Try your Bible.

It gets complicated and one needs a book to systematize all the scriptures. If you have not noticed eschatology is the most complicated of all theology fields and this includes Cal/Armin.

 

[Greektim]

I don't know that I know the "best" books in this are. But books that would be good for the lay level are:

Hanagraff's The Apocalypse Code

Storms's Kingdom Come (I haven't read it but plan on it later. But I have heard many reviews about it, all positive from different eschatological viewpoints; also see a short video of Storms here: http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/sam-storms-on-the-end-times)

This video may be good to watch too since it presents many view points across evangelicalism. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W75bzrvJtLs

 

[prophet]

You should know the Bible definition of prophecy, before you say "most churches ignore prophecy"

Prophecy is the revealing of God's Word.

 

[go2church]

Perhaps it isn't that most churches ignore the subject, as you suggest, but that some churches address the subject waaaay too much forcing the bible to say things it isn't actually saying.

The only recommendation I have for you would be to run from dispensationalism as fast and as hard as you can. Instead follow Rev's advice, read the bible, study Jesus.

 

[prophet]

Perhaps it isn't that most churches ignore the subject, as you suggest, but that some churches address the subject waaaay too much forcing the bible to say things it isn't actually saying.

The only recommendation I have for you would be to run from dispensationalism as fast and as hard as you can. Instead follow Rev's advice, read the bible, study Jesus.

Matthew is the book to start with, to teach end times.

 

[Greektim]

Matthew is the book to start with, to teach end times.

I would say to start w/ Genesis. Since eschatology assumes a narrative or story line, why jump to the end? An eschatology is only as good as the protology it is following. Get the story line or redemptive history of the Bible. That was what helped me to understand the role or mission of national Israel and what, if any, place it has left in the story line. This is one area that dispensationalism lacks... a good redemptive historical/biblical theology model of the metanarrative of Scripture.

 

[prophet]

I would say to start w/ Genesis. Since eschatology assumes a narrative or story line, why jump to the end? An eschatology is only as good as the protology it is following. Get the story line or redemptive history of the Bible. That was what helped me to understand the role or mission of national Israel and what, if any, place it has left in the story line. This is one area that dispensationalism lacks... a good redemptive historical/biblical theology model of the metanarrative of Scripture.

It is amazing how much light the study of the feasts in Israel illuminates end time events.
I concur.
But I'm assuming that these aren't brand new converts, and Matthew sets the stage most plainly.

 

[Tom Butler]

I found two books quite helpful, both now quite old, but probably still obtainable.

The Blessed Hope by George Eldon Ladd.
The Church and the Tribulation by Robert Gundry.

 

[preachinjesus]

I found two books quite helpful, both now quite old, but probably still obtainable.

The Blessed Hope by George Eldon Ladd.
The Church and the Tribulation by Robert Gundry.

Yes! :thumbsup:

Per the OP, my apologies but someone has misled you. Tim LaHaye is not a good resource for anything about eschatology. He is actually quite bad at the subject.

Also, listen to what GreekTim said, his words are wise. The problem with teaching eschatology is that we end up quibbling over sub-sub-sub-sub-points of theology before getting our arms around the bigger picture. It also is difficult to adequately represent legitimately diverse views.

Too often we end up teaching our perspective and far too often that teaching can become dogmatic. We cannot be dogmatic about anything in eschatology save that Jesus is coming back.

Finally, the OP makes a scary statement that one expert is outweighed by another because of sheer volume of publishing. This is a terrible position to take. In "prophecy" circles idiots can publish because it sells. I could come up with a new dispensationalist Bible code prophecy that shows when it snows in Israel the anti-Christ is coming tomorrow. It'd be a best-seller and chock full of terrible theology.

Being able to get presses turning is not, in and of itself, credibility.

 

[evangelist6589]

I don't know that I know the "best" books in this are. But books that would be good for the lay level are:

Hanagraff's The Apocalypse Code

Storms's Kingdom Come (I haven't read it but plan on it later. But I have heard many reviews about it, all positive from different eschatological viewpoints; also see a short video of Storms here: http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/sam-storms-on-the-end-times)

This video may be good to watch too since it presents many view points across evangelicalism. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W75bzrvJtLs

Are you kidding me??? You would endorse a Preterist view point? Perhaps your strengths are more in exegesis and NT Theology.

 

[ktn4eg]

What about the book entitled Things To Come by J. Dwight Pentecost?

Granted, it may be a bit "heavy reading" for some adults, but IMHO, it gives a wealth of information on just about every aspect of eschatology, especially the pro's and con's of the points in which there are diverse viewpoints in interpreting the varied aspects of eschatology.

 

[preachinjesus]

Are you kidding me??? You would endorse a Preterist view point? Perhaps your strengths are more in exegesis and NT Theology.

Well this was unnecessary. Your statement belies my larger point, you can't teach eschatology plainly because there are too many points so too many teachers often just teach their point of view alone.

A preterist view is worth hearing in a Bible study.

 

[Luke2427]

Church is using this one Charting the End Times and I like it as its a easy read with lots of discussion and Q&A. This is one area where Reformed seem to have missed the point whom often ignore prophecy not to reveal their Post/Amil, and or Preterist views. But this does not include Reformed whom are Reformed in Soteriology but Dispensational in eschatology like Mac.

Is this a book your church has also used? Or what ones? What makes it interesting are all the charts, tables, graphs and the like as well as his hard and Biblical defense. Hank Hanagraaf always picks on Lahaye, but its not like he is the worlds expert with only one book published on the subject while Lahaye has a dozen of them. Like David Jeremiah & John MacArthur, Lahaye knows what he is talking about.

Why do most churches ignore prophecy, especially when there are FIVE TIMES more prophecy scriptures for Christ's second coming than his first, and or references to the second coming appear in 23/27 NT books? Perhaps they ignore it because of ignorance. But I tell you the King is Coming soon and he would rather us spend our time preparing for this coming than debating all the secondary areas of theology such as MUSIC, Alcoholic Beverages, & Bible Translations.

Because most of those prophesies have been fulfilled.

 

[go2church]

Evangelist

If your mind is already set, why bother? Just a note, all points of view on his subject have their "problems". Lots of good people have differences of opinion. Also, many if not most of those of the reformed point of view, which you claim, are preterist or partial-preterist.

 

[Luke2427]

Are you kidding me??? You would endorse a Preterist view point? Perhaps your strengths are more in exegesis and NT Theology.

About 90% of reformed people are partial-preterists.

MacArthur is a weird conglomeration of reformed and dispensational.

Most reformed people are too smart to be dispensationalists. Seriously.

 

[Grasshopper]

Church is using this one Charting the End Times and I like it as its a easy read with lots of discussion and Q&A.

Here is a site that dealt with LaHaye's book, numerous articles available.

http://www.eschatology.org/index.ph...searchphrase=all&Itemid=211&option=com_search

Is this a book your church has also used? Or what ones? What makes it interesting are all the charts, tables, graphs and the like as well as his hard and Biblical defense.

See above link if you wish to test your view.

Lahaye knows what he is talking about.

Sorry if I laugh hysterically.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

*But I tell you the King is Coming soon*

I love it when Dispies use words like "soon" and "near". *Tell us what does " soon" mean and do you have a different definition than the Biblical writers.

Here is a free book: *

http://www.2shared.com/document/UP89mIYI/Last_Days_Madness_-_The_Obsess.html