The Bible as science

[Deacon]

I believe the bible is true.
I believe my interpretation of it is fallible.

I believe God’s witness in nature is factual.
I believe my interpretation of it is fallible.

Rob

 

[Jedi Knight]

We must remember what biblical perfection is though.

Gods Word is perfect without error. So whats next? God didn't make everything in 6 days?

 

[gb93433]

Gods Word is perfect without error. So whats next? God didn't make everything in 6 days?

How long are those days?

 

[Marcia]

How long are those days?

As long as they are in Exodus 20. It would be deceptive for God to have them mean long periods of time in Genesis and then mean regular days in Ex. 20.

9"Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you.
11"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.

Also, study note from the NET Bible:

The exegetical evidence suggests the word “day” in this chapter refers to a literal twenty-four hour day. It is true that the word can refer to a longer period of time (see Isa 61:2, or the idiom in 2:4, “in the day,” that is, “when”). But this chapter uses “day,” “night,” “morning,” “evening,” “years,” and “seasons.” Consistency would require sorting out how all these terms could be used to express ages. Also, when the Hebrew word יוֹם (yom) is used with a numerical adjective, it refers to a literal day. Furthermore, the commandment to keep the sabbath clearly favors this interpretation. One is to work for six days and then rest on the seventh, just as God did when he worked at creation.

http://net.bible.org/bible.php?book=Gen&chapter=1#n14

 

[gb93433]

As long as they are in Exodus 20. It would be deceptive for God to have them mean long periods of time in Genesis and then mean regular days in Ex. 20.

Rememebr how long a day was? So why not? I would contend that the day was longer before the water fell from the sky to the land if the conservation of momentum is true.

 

[donnA]

How long are those days?

morning and evening, day and night, 24 hours just like now.

 

[Bob Alkire]

There was also a time when the church largely believed in evolution.

Not that I ever read in school, church or seminary. Now after Charles Darwin many know theologians tried to twist Scripture to go along with Darwin, many of the Princeton folks( B.B. Warfield and Charles Hodge) and the Gap folks, but not most or would I say largely the church.

 

[Johnv]

Scientist can study all they want but Gods word is perfect.....Scientist are not.

True. It's also true that, while God's Word is perfect, our understanding, interpretation, and application of it is not.

 

[just-want-peace]

God's word is not:
1) a science book, but where it touches on science it is correct
2) a history book, but ---------------------history ----------
3) an archeology book, but ----------------archeology -------
4) etc, etc, etc

God's word is:
1) His revelation of Himself to us
2) a guide book for us to live by
3) the answer to the "WHY" of life
4) etc, etc, etc

:jesus::godisgood:

 

[Johnv]

morning and evening, day and night...

Actually, an OT day is the other way around: evening followed by morning. To this day, Jews still recognize sundown as the start of the next day.

 

[tinytim]

And this concept of darkness followed by light being a day symbolizes the fact that humanity was encased in darkness but then came light..
Just as Darkness was upon the face of the deep, then God said "Let there be light"...

 

[donnA]

Actually, an OT day is the other way around: evening followed by morning. To this day, Jews still recognize sundown as the start of the next day.

look outside, day light, then dark, 24 hours. It doesn't matter when you think a day starts, it's 24 hours.
God said day, night a day. Thats it, why is it so hard to beleive Him?

 

[Johnv]

uhhh, okay, I wasn't arguing that point at all. I was simply noting that the OT day starts with the evening first, then morning.

 

[nodak]

I believe the Bible is accurate about science.

I believe our understanding of what the Bible says about science is not always accurate.

I believe it is possible that the earth is young with creation being 6 literal 24 hour days.

I believe the gap theory, which by the way predates Darwin and evolution, is possible both scripturally and scientifically.

I believe it is possible the Genesis account uses metaphor and hyperbole, so there is the chance the day-age theory is correct.

I believe all of us should be fully convinced in our own mind, and also since I hold to the Baptist Distinctives I believe we should cut each other some slack.

The important thing is that God is the Creator, not the mode or method He used.

And I wonder how many we could reach with the gospel if we stopped beating each other up over this sort of thing, and focused on getting the gospel out.

 

[Johnv]

I believe you're going top get pelted with all sorts of not-so-nice comments. :wavey:

 

[preachinjesus]

I believe you are correct...

 

[Revmitchell]

When science is the lens by which you interpret scripture then Genesis becomes an allegory.

 

[nodak]

Johnv--that's ok, I have my raincoat on, metaphorically speaking.

I doubt most will notice that I do NOT doubt the Bible, just am aware of the fact that my personal understanding of it could be wrong.

 

[Johnv]

When science is the lens by which you interpret scripture then Genesis becomes an allegory.

Genesis 1 notwithstanding, Christianity has a rich history of misapplying scripture in the area of natural scences. Just ask folks like Galileo, Copernicous, Kepler, et al.

 

[Crabtownboy]

When science is the lens by which you interpret scripture then Genesis becomes an allegory.

But the BIG truth is still there ... God DID it!