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The Biggest Difference Between Judaism and Christianity
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37818
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Jesus taught in John 4:22, Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Galatians 6:15-16, For in Christ Jesus neither circumision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
Revelation 20:15, And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Romans 4:4-5, Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness
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How are any of these passages relevant to the question posed in the OP or to my post?
What is your point?
37818
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What did you deny in your post?
What have you imagined that I’ve denied?
If it’s that salvation is ALSO from Judaism, then I absolutely denied that.
37818
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Do you mean Judiasm or the Hebrew religion?
Typically (or often) Judiasm is used to refer to the religion of the Jews after 70 AD (that change in the Hebrew religion with the destruction of the Temple).
I ask only because I have seen Christisns trun to Jews to explain OT customs and practices, but they are practicing a different religion (based on the Hebrew faith).
Typically (or often) Judiasm is used to refer to the religion of the Jews after 70 AD (that change in the Hebrew religion with the destruction of the Temple).
I ask only because I have seen Christisns trun to Jews to explain OT customs and practices, but they are practicing a different religion (based on the Hebrew faith).
Basically, the Rabbis hijacked the religious procedures prescribed by God through Moses. This was beginning to take place during the time of Malachi and rapidly accelerated after they received Alexander the Great and he introduced pagan Hellenism.
Whether out of fear of the Greeks, or lust, or both, Hellenism took root in Israel and divided the Jews. The Rabbis had compromised with paganism, corrupting themselves, and gotten comfortable being subjects to Rome well before John the Baptist and Jesus came on the scene. Which is exactly why John the Baptist called the people to repentance.
Their receiving Alexander the Great is very similar to how they will receive the Antichrist.
Post AD 70, eventually the corrupted Rabbis wrote the Talmuds, with the Babylonian Talmud being the one that they used to establish what is aptly called this age of Rabbinical Judaism.
Rabbinical Judaism deviously magnifies post-Torah Rabbinic authority above the scriptures in the same exact way as Catholicism deviously magnifies Pontific authority above the scriptures. They both magnify corrupt men above the Word of God.
In the sense of the Jews attempting to obey the prescribed religious procedures given to Moses by God, during the generations prior to Jesus laying down his life as a substitutionary sacrifice for our sins, that Judaism was valid religion as it was prescribed by God.
With the sacrificial requirements of the Law fulfilled in Jesus Christ, the prescribed religious procedures were replaced by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
Whether out of fear of the Greeks, or lust, or both, Hellenism took root in Israel and divided the Jews. The Rabbis had compromised with paganism, corrupting themselves, and gotten comfortable being subjects to Rome well before John the Baptist and Jesus came on the scene. Which is exactly why John the Baptist called the people to repentance.
Their receiving Alexander the Great is very similar to how they will receive the Antichrist.
Post AD 70, eventually the corrupted Rabbis wrote the Talmuds, with the Babylonian Talmud being the one that they used to establish what is aptly called this age of Rabbinical Judaism.
Rabbinical Judaism deviously magnifies post-Torah Rabbinic authority above the scriptures in the same exact way as Catholicism deviously magnifies Pontific authority above the scriptures. They both magnify corrupt men above the Word of God.
In the sense of the Jews attempting to obey the prescribed religious procedures given to Moses by God, during the generations prior to Jesus laying down his life as a substitutionary sacrifice for our sins, that Judaism was valid religion as it was prescribed by God.
With the sacrificial requirements of the Law fulfilled in Jesus Christ, the prescribed religious procedures were replaced by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
The religion of the Jews has been dead for a very long time.
19 And seeing a fig tree by the way side, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only; and he saith unto it, Let there be no fruit from thee henceforward for ever. And immediately the fig tree withered away. Mt 21
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. Mt 23
21 And a strong angel took up a stone as it were a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with a mighty fall shall Babylon, the great city, be cast down, and shall be found no more at all.
22 And the voice of harpers and minstrels and flute-players and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft, shall be found any more at all in thee; and the voice of a mill shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23 and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that have been slain upon the earth. Rev 18 [Matthew 23:34-37]
19 And seeing a fig tree by the way side, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only; and he saith unto it, Let there be no fruit from thee henceforward for ever. And immediately the fig tree withered away. Mt 21
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. Mt 23
21 And a strong angel took up a stone as it were a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with a mighty fall shall Babylon, the great city, be cast down, and shall be found no more at all.
22 And the voice of harpers and minstrels and flute-players and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft, shall be found any more at all in thee; and the voice of a mill shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23 and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that have been slain upon the earth. Rev 18 [Matthew 23:34-37]
I'm thankful God has a New Covenant promised for the Jews in time to come. No salvation in Judaism religion today; each individual must be born again just as everyone else. There is NO SALVATION in anything other than the blood of the Christ they reject.
Judaic moral values show it a "better" (in man's eye) religion than Islam or Hindu or Buddhism per se, but "better" among religions that still ALL LEAD TO DAMNATION is not going to get a Jew into heaven.
Judaic moral values show it a "better" (in man's eye) religion than Islam or Hindu or Buddhism per se, but "better" among religions that still ALL LEAD TO DAMNATION is not going to get a Jew into heaven.
We leave Judgment of individuals to The Lord however, only He knows the full story of a soul. Invincible ignorance and conscience, the Lord also knows who would have accepted Him if they had the same chance to hear.
Much more is expected of those who know more, much less is expected of those who know less.
Much harder for a man who knows more, to enter the Kingdom, a far tougher accounting has to be made.
We who know Jesus, how hard did we pray on our knees, fast and do penance for the Graces to be given to those who don’t know Jesus.
If we believe all these people are going to hell, we need to be spending at least half our day in great supplication to the Lord on our knees to grant them the Grace of Faith in Jesus.
Whilst the Grace of Faith is free to the recipient, it cost a fortune, first with the Lord’s prayers and sufferings and with all the prayers and sufferings of His body the Church.
“Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms.“
“No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
We need to call down the graces in prayer, not just for healing and deliverance, but full conversion of Jews, Pagans and atheists.
Just as we are guilty for not warning a person who does wrong, we are also guilty if we fail to and neglect to pray for them.
“When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood.”
In as far as we neglect to pray for the graces for others, we are answerable, because of what we know.
Grace is everything.
We pray for the sick, the lonely, those grieving, abandoned, the helpless the ignorant and even our enemies, why? For the Grace of God on them.
Knowing that so many are in great peril, did we even go out to them, let alone even ask for those necessary Graces for them.
We have Jesus ear, let’s shout mercy in it.
“The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then, the good news of the kingdom of God has been proclaimed, and everyone is strongly urged to enter it.“
“Believe me, no one greater than John the Baptist has ever been born of all mankind, and yet a humble member of the kingdom of Heaven is greater than he.“
The least in the Kingdom is greater than John. The least Christian.
Israel had a long story of faithlessness and adulterousness toward God.
Finally it was given its divorce for its harlotry.
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38 See! Your house is left to you desolate; 39 for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”
The Church is now Christ’s Faithful Bride in an everlasting Covenant.
Ohhhh, like Naaman the Syrian [2 Kings 5:17-19], and Nicodemus and other 'secret disciples'. Why didn't you say so?
I've no doubt there's 'secret disciples' to be found in all the false religions, not just Judaism.
I think "non-Christian believer" in Christ would be an oxymoron.
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