The blame for the Afghan disaster...

[robycop3]

I lay the blame for the Afghan debacle on 4 POTUSes-Dubbiweh for not sending in overwhelming force & completely crushing Taliban, Al Qaida, etc.-Obama, for doing nothing, Trump, for making ANY deal with the taliban other than complete surrender, and, of course, Biden, for continuing that deal.

Can the Afghans fight? Just ask the Russians from the 1980s war they had with the Afghan Mujahideen. Russia made the same mistake the US made in Korea, Nam & now Aghanistan-they didn't send enough forces, with orders to win, & had no plan or purpose for their war.

I believe that, if a nation goes to war, the object should be VICTORY. Just to make a show of force is stupid & a needless sacrifice of troops.

While I believe truman was the best dem POTUS there's been in my lifetime, he made a big mistake in Korea my not allowing our forces to STOMP the NKVD. China? He coulda told them, "Hey, if it weren' for us, you'd still be Manchuria & speak Japanese." We had nukes; Mao didn't. A swift & thorough victory would've prevented some of our headaches since then with North Korea.

Nam? same thing. Once our forces became involved, we should've CRUSHED Charlie into the ground. Russia might bluster, but they would NOT have gone to war with us over Nam. And Cambodia, etc. could not have prevented our pursuing & whacking gooks in their lands.

Seems many Afghans wanted the Taliban to take over Otherwise, they would've fought much-harder. All the US got from this whole affair is a long list of casualties, a few records for long-distance sniping, & 2 TRILLION dollars thrown to the wind.

Yes, the world is being prepared for the coming to power of the antichrist & false prophet !

 

[Reynolds]

I lay the blame for the Afghan debacle on 4 POTUSes-Dubbiweh for not sending in overwhelming force & completely crushing Taliban, Al Qaida, etc.-Obama, for doing nothing, Trump, for making ANY deal with the taliban other than complete surrender, and, of course, Biden, for continuing that deal.

Can the Afghans fight? Just ask the Russians from the 1980s war they had with the Afghan Mujahideen. Russia made the same mistake the US made in Korea, Nam & now Aghanistan-they didn't send enough forces, with orders to win, & had no plan or purpose for their war.

I believe that, if a nation goes to war, the object should be VICTORY. Just to make a show of force is stupid & a needless sacrifice of troops.

While I believe truman was the best dem POTUS there's been in my lifetime, he made a big mistake in Korea my not allowing our forces to STOMP the NKVD. China? He coulda told them, "Hey, if it weren' for us, you'd still be Manchuria & speak Japanese." We had nukes; Mao didn't. A swift & thorough victory would've prevented some of our headaches since then with North Korea.

Nam? same thing. Once our forces became involved, we should've CRUSHED Charlie into the ground. Russia might bluster, but they would NOT have gone to war with us over Nam. And Cambodia, etc. could not have prevented our pursuing & whacking gooks in their lands.

Seems many Afghans wanted the Taliban to take over Otherwise, they would've fought much-harder. All the US got from this whole affair is a long list of casualties, a few records for long-distance sniping, & 2 TRILLION dollars thrown to the wind.

Yes, the world is being prepared for the coming to power of the antichrist & false prophet !

2 Trillion? Depends on how you look at it. Most of that money would have been spent by the military with or without a war.
If we are not willing to fight a war in which we fully implement The Sherman Doctrine of Total Warfare, we should not fight that war.

 

[robycop3]

2 Trillion? Depends on how you look at it. Most of that money would have been spent by the military with or without a war.
If we are not willing to fight a war in which we fully implement The Sherman Doctrine of Total Warfare, we should not fight that war.

I agree. However, GOD is in control. He won't let us, or any one nation or empire become too powerful til the antichrist comes. He caused us to become independent, but would not let us take Canada.

 

[Yeshua1]

2 Trillion? Depends on how you look at it. Most of that money would have been spent by the military with or without a war.
If we are not willing to fight a war in which we fully implement The Sherman Doctrine of Total Warfare, we should not fight that war.

What was The Sherman Doctrine of Total Warfare? Nuke them back to stone age?

 

[Yeshua1]

I lay the blame for the Afghan debacle on 4 POTUSes-Dubbiweh for not sending in overwhelming force & completely crushing Taliban, Al Qaida, etc.-Obama, for doing nothing, Trump, for making ANY deal with the taliban other than complete surrender, and, of course, Biden, for continuing that deal.

Can the Afghans fight? Just ask the Russians from the 1980s war they had with the Afghan Mujahideen. Russia made the same mistake the US made in Korea, Nam & now Aghanistan-they didn't send enough forces, with orders to win, & had no plan or purpose for their war.

I believe that, if a nation goes to war, the object should be VICTORY. Just to make a show of force is stupid & a needless sacrifice of troops.

While I believe truman was the best dem POTUS there's been in my lifetime, he made a big mistake in Korea my not allowing our forces to STOMP the NKVD. China? He coulda told them, "Hey, if it weren' for us, you'd still be Manchuria & speak Japanese." We had nukes; Mao didn't. A swift & thorough victory would've prevented some of our headaches since then with North Korea.

Nam? same thing. Once our forces became involved, we should've CRUSHED Charlie into the ground. Russia might bluster, but they would NOT have gone to war with us over Nam. And Cambodia, etc. could not have prevented our pursuing & whacking gooks in their lands.

Seems many Afghans wanted the Taliban to take over Otherwise, they would've fought much-harder. All the US got from this whole affair is a long list of casualties, a few records for long-distance sniping, & 2 TRILLION dollars thrown to the wind.

Yes, the world is being prepared for the coming to power of the antichrist & false prophet !

For the majority of Muslims, especially westernized, our weapons are the Gospel and prayers, but for the extremists its bullets and bombs!

 

[Baptist Believer]

What was The Sherman Doctrine of Total Warfare? Nuke them back to stone age?

Google is your friend.

Believe it or not, we didn't deploy nuclear weapons during the US Civil War.

 

[Yeshua1]

Google is your friend.

Believe it or not, we didn't deploy nuclear weapons during the US Civil War.

We did though at end of WW 2!

 

[robycop3]

Google is your friend.

Believe it or not, we didn't deploy nuclear weapons during the US Civil War.

Nor lasers.

 

[Reynolds]

What was The Sherman Doctrine of Total Warfare? Nuke them back to stone age?

What was The Sherman Doctrine of Total Warfare? Nuke them back to stone age?

It's a lot more complicated than that.
There are plenty of resources available explaining it.

It all revolves around the principle that we are fighting a complete nation. You can not divide military and civilians. The military is merely an extension of the people. You can not win a war until you break the will of the people to fight. Destroying a military will not win a war. The people will field another military. You win a war by defeating the civilian population.

 

[Reynolds]

I agree. However, GOD is in control. He won't let us, or any one nation or empire become too powerful til the antichrist comes. He caused us to become independent, but would not let us take Canada.

God is in control. How much He is willing to allow to happen is unknown to us

 

[robycop3]

It's a lot more complicated than that.
There are plenty of resources available explaining it.

It all revolves around the principle that we are fighting a complete nation. You can not divide military and civilians. The military is merely an extension of the people. You can not win a war until you break the will of the people to fight. Destroying a military will not win a war. The people will field another military. You win a war by defeating the civilian population.

In South Vietnam, it was under the rule of Ngo Dinh Diem, a dictator who was much-tougher on the population than Ho Chi Minh, etc. were in the north, & the US was seen as supporting Diem. That's what some Vietnamese told me while I was there 1968-70 as a corpsman. Thus, we couldn't trust too many of them.

And when our forces pulled out, many southerners welcomed Charlie, same as many Afghans welcomed the taliban.

 

[Reynolds]

In South Vietnam, it was under the rule of Ngo Dinh Diem, a dictator who was much-tougher on the population than Ho Chi Minh, etc. were in the north, & the US was seen as supporting Diem. That's what some Vietnamese told me while I was there 1968-70 as a corpsman. Thus, we couldn't trust too many of them.

And when our forces pulled out, many southerners welcomed Charlie, same as many Afghans welcomed the taliban.

I think Sherman's doctrine of total war would have prohibited us from being in Nam. It was a war we knew full well going into that we could not execute "total warfare" in.

 

[xlsdraw]

I don't blame anyone. God is executing His plan perfectly.

The Conquest Islamic and Conquest Communist entities must be emboldened to come forth to the Gog-Magog war of Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39.

The West must be removed from being an obstacle to the Gog-Magog alliance move against Israel.

These Gog-Magog alliance nations are opposed to the building of the Third Temple in Jerusalem.

Therefore, their prophecied annihilation, by the hand of God, is necessary.

 

[Baptist Believer]

I think Sherman's doctrine of total war would have prohibited us from being in Nam. It was a war we knew full well going into that we could not execute "total warfare" in.

Yes, it was essentially a proxy war with the Communist countries, especially Russia. Because both sides had nuclear weapons, neither side used "total war" because of the potential for a nuclear holocaust.

We really haven't been involved in total war since World War II for that very reason, and it makes just about all of our military actions nearly unwinnable if the other side can wait us out.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I lay the blame for the Afghan debacle on 4 POTUSes-Dubbiweh for not sending in overwhelming force & completely crushing Taliban, Al Qaida, etc.-Obama, for doing nothing, Trump, for making ANY deal with the taliban other than complete surrender, and, of course, Biden, for continuing that deal. …

Obama did nothing? He got Osama bin Laden, but traded away these guys for Bergdahl.

Taliban prisoner traded by Obama for Bowe Bergdahl instrumental in Afghanistan takeover

 

[just-want-peace]

------ We really haven't been involved in total war since World War II for that very reason, and it makes just about all of our military actions nearly unwinnable if the other side can wait us out.

'Tain't often I agree with you, but I think you are spot on here!!

 

[Use of Time]

There is plenty of blame to spread. Bush for starting it in the first place. Obama should have pulled us out after Bin Laden. Trump should have withdrawn. Biden’s exit was ugly but at least he ripped the bandaid off and didn’t punt it down the road like the last two Presidents. It was never going to be pretty folks but it needed to happen. Those running for President next term are all thanking Biden right now for removing this as a decision point I promise you.

 

[robycop3]

Obama did nothing? He got Osama bin Laden, but traded away these guys for Bergdahl.

Taliban prisoner traded by Obama for Bowe Bergdahl instrumental in Afghanistan takeover

What I meant was that he didn't push the military to take out the Taliban, not just Al-Qaida.

 

[Yeshua1]

It's a lot more complicated than that.
There are plenty of resources available explaining it.

It all revolves around the principle that we are fighting a complete nation. You can not divide military and civilians. The military is merely an extension of the people. You can not win a war until you break the will of the people to fight. Destroying a military will not win a war. The people will field another military. You win a war by defeating the civilian population.

That is why we must "fight" Islam by taking the Gospel and Bible to the peaceful Muslims, while hitting the militant Muslims head on by force!

 

[Yeshua1]

There is plenty of blame to spread. Bush for starting it in the first place. Obama should have pulled us out after Bin Laden. Trump should have withdrawn. Biden’s exit was ugly but at least he ripped the bandaid off and didn’t punt it down the road like the last two Presidents. It was never going to be pretty folks but it needed to happen. Those running for President next term are all thanking Biden right now for removing this as a decision point I promise you.

Iraq and Afgan should have been treated as our modern Korea, so keep some forces there