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The Born of God

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Anything a human being
born of God does, will not be sin.

Just like anything that God does , will not be sin.

For example....Jesus is a human being born of God.
Nothing he did was sin.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ,
he is a new creature: old things are passed away;
behold, all things are become new.

All their past was gone.
Their past sins were as they had never sin.
For they have all been washed away by the blood of the Lamb of God.
For as a new creature a new beginning they were now sinless.

And born of God.

As it is written...

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

1 John 1:8
If we say we have no sin we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

If we say we have sin and that we are born of God
we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

Jesus was born of God. Therefore he sinneth not.
Jesus was begotten of God therefore he kept himself
that the wicked one toucheth him not.

These people...

John
Chapter 1

12 But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.

Are these people...

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

There are no errors in the words of the born of God for as it is written...

Matthew 10:20
For it is not ye that speak,
but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

The Born of God cannot ever be deceived
for they have the Spirit of God, their Father.

The deceived are deceived by their own heart.

For it is written...

James 1:14
But every man is tempted,
when he is drawn away of his own lust,
and enticed.

This is what I believe.
No errors and no flaws within it.
The truth is flawless and has no errors.

If what you believe has any errors or flaws within it...
then what you believe is not the truth.

I welcome all your comments and I will answer
all your questions as and if the Lord be willing.
 
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1 John 1:8 " If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

The truth is not in you.
 
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annsni said:
1 John 1:8 " If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

The truth is not in you.
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If we say we have sin then we are not born of God
and the truth is not in us.

If we say we have sin and that we are born of God
we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
 
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Moppie said:
If we say we have sin then we are not born of God
and the truth is not in us.

If we say we have sin and that we are born of God
we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
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But we see Paul here clearly saying If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. He also said that he was the chief of sinners. So was Paul not born of God? If we have no sin, why do we need an advocate? 1 John 2:1 tells us "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous."
 
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annsni said:
1 John 1:8 " If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

The truth is not in you.
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If you have sin then seek to be born of God....
It is written...

John
Chapter 1

12 But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
 
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annsni said:
But we see Paul here clearly saying If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. He also said that he was the chief of sinners. So was Paul not born of God? If we have no sin, why do we need an advocate? 1 John 2:1 tells us "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous."
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If you have sin then seek to be born of God....
It is written...

John
Chapter 1

12 But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
 
InTheLight

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8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
I John 1:8‭-‬10

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annsni said:
But we see Paul here clearly saying If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. He also said that he was the chief of sinners. So was Paul not born of God? If we have no sin, why do we need an advocate? 1 John 2:1 tells us "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous."
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These are not the born of God because it is written....

John
Chapter 1

12 But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
 
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InTheLight said:
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
I John 1:8‭-‬10

Sent from my Moto Droid Turbo.
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If you have sin then seek to be born of God....
It is written...

John
Chapter 1

12 But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
 
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The new man does not sin. But the old man, which is still with us, does sin. Our job is to follow the new man, not the old man.

PS: Be very careful about implying that those who disagree with you are not born again. Doing so is a banning offense. Be wise and take warning. :)
 
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TCassidy said:
The new man does not sin. But the old man, which is still with us, does sin. Our job is to follow the new man, not the old man.
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It is written...
Matthew 9:17
Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break,and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish:
but they put new wine into new bottles,
and both are preserved.
 
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TCassidy said:
PS: Be very careful about implying that those who disagree with you are not born again. Doing so is a banning offense. Be wise and take warning. :)
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It is written...

Matthew 12:37
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
 
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Moppie said:
These are not the born of God because it is written....

John
Chapter 1

12 But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
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1 John was written to believers.

In your first post, you said that Jesus is a human being born of God. Who do you say Jesus is?
 
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annsni said:
1 John was written to believers.

In your first post, you said that Jesus is a human being born of God. Who do you say Jesus is?
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A human being born of God and a woman would be a son of God and a son of man seeing how the woman came from man.

Jesus was the first born of God. The Son of God.
 
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