The Commandments of Jesus Christ

[Stephen Levi]

None. I don't think anyone said anything about evil done to anyone.

But the stringing of our posts has a very familiar ring to it.

First, insist that everybody play by your set of rules for who can come to "your" thread. The pepper everybody with questions, be as ambiguous as you can with answers, all the while insisting that this is preaching the gospel or teaching truth - all of which nobody else seems to have a grasp of.

Then the question of "what evil have I done to you?"
just tops it off

I've seen enough. Thanks

Add this to your list, I do not believe your mother ever said anything to you about the Seven Spirits of God. I believe your mother did not even know they existed.

 

[Winman]

John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.


If you do not keep the commandments of Jesus Christ,
you do not love, Jesus Christ.

True or false?

False. It is not saying if you do not keep Jesus's commandments you do not love Jesus.

It is Jesus simply saying, if you love me, then obey me.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Add this to your list, I do not believe your mother ever said anything to you about the Seven Spirits of God. I believe your mother did not even know they existed.

...and no one believes that this is your first time here or that you are here with Godly intentions.

We know who you are.

And when I say "we", I mean multiple members - not one member with multiple user names spamming multiple sites.

C'est la vie -

 

[Don]

So which commandments are we to keep?

 

[DHK]

We don't just preach here on the internet.
We also go to the baptists churches.
And talk to people there face to face about
the exact same things we preach here.

We walk our talk.

By admission, then, you are not actually a member of a Baptist Church. You just go to them and preach "your doctrine," the exact same things 'we' preach here," which is not Baptist doctrine.
So what are you? You don't seem to be Baptist. What are you affiliated with?

 

[The Biblicist]

John, Chapter 15, 10: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

The ONLY way anyone, can abide in the love of Jesus Christ, is to keep the Commandments of Jesus Christ, as Jesus Christ kept the commandments of God, His Father.

True or false?

The context is referring to experiential abiding in Christ. It is not referring to being "created in Christ" (Eph. 2:10) or "chosen in him" (Eph. 1:4) or positionally seated "in Christ" (Eph. 2:7) or being "baptized in Christ" (Gal. 3:27) or metaphorically "in Christ" by church membership (1 Cor. 12:12-13).

Being "chosen in him" occurred "before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:4) and therefore could not be obtained or effected by anything you were able to do as you did not exist. Being "created in Christ" is an act beyond your ability as you cannot create anything and besides Paul says it preceded all "good works" (Eph. 2:10b). Being positionally "seated in Christ in heavenly place is due to justification by faith "without works" (Rom. 4:5-11) and thus again has nothing to do with your obedience at all.

Experientially in Christ has to do with experiential power ("without me ye can do nothing") and experiential blessings (joy, fellowship, answered prayer, bearing fruit, etc.) that come with personal obedience but not with entrance into heaven. Thus experiencing the "love" of God and abiding in that experiential love, joy, assurance, blessings that come with personal obedience. This is what Christ means when he says he gives not merely life (eternal life) but life more abundantly - experiential daily joy, blessings that comes by abiding in him experientially - being filled with the Spirit.

 

[Stephen Levi]

By admission, then, you are not actually a member of a Baptist Church. You just go to them and preach "your doctrine," the exact same things 'we' preach here," which is not Baptist doctrine.
So what are you? You don't seem to be Baptist. What are you affiliated with?

You are not going to be able to use this as an excuse.
I am a baptist member and I was baptized as a baptist in a baptist church.
I am a baptist.

Please point out to me anything I have posted that is not baptist doctrine.
I want to see that.

 

[Stephen Levi]

So which commandments are we to keep?

All of them. Every one.

 

[Stephen Levi]

...and no one believes that this is your first time here or that you are here with Godly intentions.

We know who you are.

And when I say "we", I mean multiple members - not one member with multiple user names spamming multiple sites.

C'est la vie -

Why have you made yourself my adversary?
And why do you say these evil things about me with out any proof?
I consider what you have said about me to be evil.

 

[Stephen Levi]

Everything I have posted is straight, right from the bible.
I am starting to think there are some baptist on here, that don't believe
some parts of the bible are true.

 

[Stephen Levi]

So which commandments are we to keep?

You know something is not quite right when a Christian
ask you which commandments of Jesus Christ are they to obey
and which ones they can disobey.

 

[The Biblicist]

You know something is not quite right when a Christian
ask you which commandments of Jesus Christ are they to obey
and which ones they can disobey.

No, it shows your own complete ignorance of the Scriptures. Even novice believers have been taught that we are no longer under the Old Covenant as this is repeated over and over again by New Testament writers. Thus we are not under the civil and ceremonial law, sacrificial system, Temple ordinances which were all commandments of God under that Old Covenant administration. For example, do you practice the Nazerite vow? Do you keep the feast of unleavened bread? Do you have an altar in your backyard where you offer up animal sacrifices??? These were all commandments by God under the Old Covenant? What Baptist church do you attend that has not taught you the a,b,c,'s????????

 

[Stephen Levi]

No, it shows your own complete ignorance of the Scriptures. Even novice believers have been taught that we are no longer under the Old Covenant as this is repeated over and over again by New Testament writers. Thus we are not under the civil and ceremonial law, sacrificial system, Temple ordinances which were all commandments of God under that Old Covenant administration. For example, do you practice the Nazerite vow? Do you keep the feast of unleavened bread? Do you have an altar in your backyard where you offer up animal sacrifices??? These were all commandments by God under the Old Covenant? What Baptist church do you attend that has not taught you the a,b,c,'s????????

The Commandments of Jesus Christ is the new covenant.

 

[The Biblicist]

The Commandments of Jesus Christ is the new covenant.

Jesus Christ is the Jehovah Messiah from Genesis to the incarnation who gave the first commandment in Genesis 2:17 to the last commandments in Malichi. He is the "God" who gave all the commandments to Adam to Moses BEFORE the Old Covenant was instituted in Exodus. He is the "I AM' who existed before Abraham (Jn. 8:57-58) and the same "I AM" who gave the commandments to Moses (Ex. 3:14).

So, you are agreeing that not all the commands of Jehovah our Saviour ("Jesus" - Mt. 1:21-23) are applicable today. Thus, his question was a very valid question as you are now clarifying and restricting the commandments of God to those under the "new Covenant" administration!!! Just curious, are you under the command of Christ to be baptized by the baptism of John (which he submitted unto) - Lk. 7:29-30??? Is it not Jesus who claims that to refuse to be baptized with the baptism of John is to reject the counsel of God????? Or do you just obey some of Christ's commandments, not this one? Or do you start your commandments after Pentecost?

 

[Stephen Levi]

Do you know what a contradiction is?

 

[The Biblicist]

Do you know what a contradiction is?

Your position is a contradiction as it opposes itself. Your arguments are contradictions to God's Word. You can't respond to my former post and the questions and so you do the cult thing, jump, hop and skip routine.

 

[Stephen Levi]

Your position is a contradiction as it opposes itself. Your arguments are contradictions to God's Word. You can't respond to my former post and the questions and so you do the cult thing, jump, hop and skip routine.

Are you able to prove this you have said to me about me, to the Lord?
yes or no?

 

[The Biblicist]

Are you able to prove this you have said to me about me, to the Lord?
yes or no?

Just did! I exposed your contradition in the post you have not yet been able to respond to! Do you obey the command of Christ in Luke 7:29-30 which he says to reject the baptism of John is to reject the "counsel of God against" yourself? Here is a commandment of Christ? It was the only possible baptism existent which could be commissioned in Matthew 28:19 as no other baptism existed and so none other could be "whatsoever I HAVE COMMANDED you."

Just did! By pointing out that Jesus is the "I AM" the Jehovah Saviour that gave all the commandments in the Old Testament as in every single case where God revealed Himself to man it was in the Second Person of the Godhead - Jesus Christ (Jehovah Savior, Messiah). David calls him his "Lord" in Psa. 110:1 in contradistinction to God the Father. He addressed Moses as "I AM" in Exodus 3:14 as explcitly claimed by Jesus in John 8:57-58 who gave all the commandments under the Old Covenant. So you do not obey all of commandments of Jehovah our Savior do you?

 

[Stephen Levi]

Just did! I exposed your contradition in the post you have not yet been able to respond to! Do you obey the command of Christ in Luke 7:29-30 which he says to reject the baptism of John is to reject the "counsel of God against" yourself? Here is a commandment of Christ? It was the only possible baptism existent which could be commissioned in Matthew 28:19 as no other baptism existed and so none other could be "whatsoever I HAVE COMMANDED you."

Just did! By pointing out that Jesus is the "I AM" the Jehovah Saviour that gave all the commandments in the Old Testament as in every single case where God revealed Himself to man it was in the Second Person of the Godhead - Jesus Christ (Jehovah Savior, Messiah). David calls him his "Lord" in Psa. 110:1 in contradistinction to God the Father. He addressed Moses as "I AM" in Exodus 3:14 as explcitly claimed by Jesus in John 8:57-58 who gave all the commandments under the Old Covenant. So you do not obey all of commandments of Jehovah our Savior do you?

The we shall see what God has to say about it now won't we?

 

[The Biblicist]

The we shall see what God has to say about it now won't we?

No, He has already spoken! All I did was refer to HIS WORD! Luke 7:29-30; Mt. 28:19 is HIS WORD - HIS COMMAND. I placed in front of you HIS WORD and you simply don't like it but CAN'T RESPOND TO HIS WORD!