The difference between unions and associations of Christian Baptists.

[Strannik]

So now, if I wear a ballcap, I'm sinning?
We had 2 kids & quit, as (A) We were 39 & 38 years old, respectively, after the 2nd one, (B) Wife's health suffered; Dr. recommended she have her "tubes tied", which she did, & (C) We couldn't really afford any more, financially. So, we sinned by quitting childbearing?

OF COURSE I don't wear anything on my head in church, and, in warm weather, few women do. Are those who don't all sinning, as well as those with short haircuts?

"The times, they are a'changin' !" Paul wrote about meat offered to idols, which isn't an issue in non-idolatrous countries such as Russia & the USA. But in Paul's time/place, it was.

Follow your conscience & I'll follow mine!

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1) And who told you that baseball caps can not be worn here, especially if you understand that they must be removed at the service? Wear it for your health.
2) If your wife cannot give birth for health reasons, and she could not give birth to you, then what kind of claims can you have? My wife also does not give birth for health reasons, as she has had many operations.
3) A woman, especially a married one, if she does not cover her head at the divine service and even more so during prayer, naturally sins. It violates the commandment of God spoken through the Apostle Paul.
4) You are wrong when you say that "times are changing and now we can be less scrupulous". I will start with the fact that you have obvious pagans with eating ritual meat in the United States, and in Russia, and in general all over the world. For example, Hare Krishnas, shamanists, and others...

And the human conscience is deceptive. You should follow the Word of the Lord, not your own desires.

 

[Strannik]

I was joking, as was saying that some of the food items that we saw while over in Russia might need strong drink in order to put it down!

Thank you for explaining.

 

[robycop3]

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1) And who told you that baseball caps can not be worn here, especially if you understand that they must be removed at the service? Wear it for your health.
2) If your wife cannot give birth for health reasons, and she could not give birth to you, then what kind of claims can you have? My wife also does not give birth for health reasons, as she has had many operations.
3) A woman, especially a married one, if she does not cover her head at the divine service and even more so during prayer, naturally sins. It violates the commandment of God spoken through the Apostle Paul.
4) You are wrong when you say that "times are changing and now we can be less scrupulous". I will start with the fact that you have obvious pagans with eating ritual meat in the United States, and in Russia, and in general all over the world. For example, Hare Krishnas, shamanists, and others...

And the human conscience is deceptive. You should follow the Word of the Lord, not your own desires.

I was talking mostly about public life in general. Of course there are different standards in church. There are many places here besides church where men remove any caps or hats. But women here don't cover their heads much, in or out of church.

Do I eat meat? Of course.

No, I'm NOT wrong about the times. Back "in the day, all Israel was commanded to worship only at the tabernacle, or the temple, after it was built. Nowhere in Scripture is there an OK for synagogues. But they existed when Jesus was here, & He often attended one. Same for the old Israelis being commanded to take an animal from their own livestock for sacrifice. But in Jesus' time, the Jews usually bought animals from vendors to give for sacrifice. And the only condemnation He gave for that was to vendors being on the temple grounds, as well as money-changers & other merchants, not for the practices themselves.

 

[xlsdraw]

The woman's natural hair is her God given covering.

 

[Strannik]

I was talking mostly about public life in general. Of course there are different standards in church. There are many places here besides church where men remove any caps or hats. But women here don't cover their heads much, in or out of church.

Do I eat meat? Of course.

No, I'm NOT wrong about the times. Back "in the day, all Israel was commanded to worship only at the tabernacle, or the temple, after it was built. Nowhere in Scripture is there an OK for synagogues. But they existed when Jesus was here, & He often attended one. Same for the old Israelis being commanded to take an animal from their own livestock for sacrifice. But in Jesus' time, the Jews usually bought animals from vendors to give for sacrifice. And the only condemnation He gave for that was to vendors being on the temple grounds, as well as money-changers & other merchants, not for the practices themselves.

1) You confuse human standards in the Community with what the Lord God Himself commands through the mouth of the prophets and apostles.
2) Eat meat for your health, but if someone is tempted or stumbles because of this, then this will be imputed to you as a sin. It is said: "Be wise..." It
is necessary, for example, to understand when you are served idolatrous or when you visit for example, an Adventist came to visit with a Hindu.
As you understand, there should be no pork or beef on the table, so as not to turn you both away. You will explain this to them later and maybe they will even be able to eat pork and beef, but not now...
3) You are mistaken, because the Lord God is One for all ages, the Church is One for all ages, and Its Teaching is one for all ages. You just have to admit that either you are obeying the words of the Scripture and the command written in It, or you are simply not a Christian.
There are already "Christians"-sodomites in the world thanks to your excuses about "other" times, but there is nothing else.
The same sins and crimes flourish all around. Human pride turns people away from obeying God and His Commandments.

 

[robycop3]

The woman's natural hair is her God given covering.

So are mens' if they don't cut it.

 

[robycop3]

1) You confuse human standards in the Community with what the Lord God Himself commands through the mouth of the prophets and apostles.
2) Eat meat for your health, but if someone is tempted or stumbles because of this, then this will be imputed to you as a sin. It is said: "Be wise..." It
is necessary, for example, to understand when you are served idolatrous or when you visit for example, an Adventist came to visit with a Hindu.
As you understand, there should be no pork or beef on the table, so as not to turn you both away. You will explain this to them later and maybe they will even be able to eat pork and beef, but not now...
3) You are mistaken, because the Lord God is One for all ages, the Church is One for all ages, and Its Teaching is one for all ages. You just have to admit that either you are obeying the words of the Scripture and the command written in It, or you are simply not a Christian.
There are already "Christians"-sodomites in the world thanks to your excuses about "other" times, but there is nothing else.
The same sins and crimes flourish all around. Human pride turns people away from obeying God and His Commandments.

With all due respect, Sir, you're not going to convince me to change a thing. Our job is to SPREAD THE GOSPEL, & following rituals is not the way to do it.

Do you know what a 'sodomite' is in the USA? It's one who participates in a certain sexual practice & has nothing to do with worship.

Meanwhile, follow your conscience & I'll follow mine. Remember, there are MANY denominations & groups serving the same God in various ways, with most believing THEIR way is the ONLY way.

And questioning one's Christianity is against the rules of this board.

 

[Salty]

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