The different parts of the gospel

[xdisciplex]

The gospel is that Jesus died for our sins, that he was burried and that he was resurrected on the third day. 3 parts. He died, he was burried, he was resurrected.

Why exactly is it so important that he was burried? I mean the most important thing is that he was resurrected and that he died for our sins, right?

And could these last 2 parts (burried & resurrected) not simply be subsumed in Jesus being God? I mean when you believe he is God then you also believe that he was resurrected, right?

 

[J. Jump]

His dying relates to our eternal (spiritual) salvation. His burial is in fulfillment of Scripture and His resurrection has to do with our age-lasting (soulical) salvation.

It's good that you see the phases.

 

[dispen4ever]

We can't rewrite the bible, xdx. What is written is written. He was born, lived, witnessed, was tried and crucified, dead and buried in a borrowed tomb, and rose again. We usually shorten that to born, lived, died, rose again, just for YOU. That's powerful!

 

[hillclimber1]

He went to the cross as an innocent sacrifice. As God he was the only suitable sacrifice.

He became sin, and died with all the Fathers' wrath on Him.

He arose with victory over death, atoning for all sin, dealing satan the final blow.

 

[BobRyan]

1Cor 15:1-7 states the Gospel in terms that include more details than listed here.

Rom 2:11-16 also speaks "according to my Gospel" about aspects that have not appeared here.

Rev 14:6-7 also speaks to the everlasting Gospel preached to the whole world -- with aspects not listed here.

The atoning substitutionary death of Christ for us - is the act of Christ in paying our debt of sin. God the Father's Love for His Son remained as strong as ever through that event - but he caused His only Son to receive the just reward of sin and rebellion - the total debt owed by all of mankind for all of time.

Christ paid the debt that the law demands that we might live and not have to pay that debt of sin -- which is suffering in the lake of fire in our case. For Christ it was supernatural suffering at the cross.

Heb 2 "He tasted the sufferings of death for every man"

Isaiah 53 the debt of suffering he paid -- he paid "for US to WHOM the stroke was DUE".

The "final blow to Satan" was in the form of living a sinless life and unmasking Satan as the great murderer. Satan's claims against God were shown to be unfounded.

But today Satan is going about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour according to Peter. In Rev 12 we see "woe woe woe" to the earth and those that dwell in it for Satan has come down to you knowing that he has but a short time.

Heb 4:1-2 "The Gospel was preached to US JUST as it was to THEM also"

In Christ,

Bob

 

[Chemnitz]

I am not sure I am comfortable with this idea of "parts" or "phases" of the Gospel because there are no parts of the Gospel, it is either all of it or none of it. There is no inbetween.

 

[hillclimber1]

1Cor 15:1-7 states the Gospel in terms that include more details than listed here.

Rom 2:11-16 also speaks "according to my Gospel" about aspects that have not appeared here.

Rev 14:6-7 also speaks to the everlasting Gospel preached to the whole world -- with aspects not listed here.

The atoning substitutionary death of Christ for us - is the act of Christ in paying our debt of sin. God the Father's Love for His Son remained as strong as ever through that event - but he caused His only Son to receive the just reward of sin and rebellion - the total debt owed by all of mankind for all of time.

Christ paid the debt that the law demands that we might live and not have to pay that debt of sin -- which is suffering in the lake of fire in our case. For Christ it was supernatural suffering at the cross.

Heb 2 "He tasted the sufferings of death for every man"

Isaiah 53 the debt of suffering he paid -- he paid "for US to WHOM the stroke was DUE".

The "final blow to Satan" was in the form of living a sinless life and unmasking Satan as the great murderer. Satan's claims against God were shown to be unfounded.

But today Satan is going about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour according to Peter. In Rev 12 we see "woe woe woe" to the earth and those that dwell in it for Satan has come down to you knowing that he has but a short time.

Heb 4:1-2 "The Gospel was preached to US JUST as it was to THEM also"

In Christ,

Bob

Very good. You know that the events in Rev 12 is future?

 

[dispen4ever]

I normally don't read bobryan, but he did rather well (above). :applause:

 

[BobRyan]

Very good. You know that the events in Rev 12 is future?

Rev 12 describes the birth of Christ,

Satan's efforts to destroy the infant Christ -

The fact that Jesus was caught up to heaven and then the church went on into 1260 years of "dark ages" persecution etc.

All the stuff that we can see clearly in history today - but much of the persecution and dark-ages detail was "future and prophetic" for John as he was speaking.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[John of Japan]

The gospel is that Jesus died for our sins, that he was burried and that he was resurrected on the third day. 3 parts. He died, he was burried, he was resurrected.

Why exactly is it so important that he was burried? I mean the most important thing is that he was resurrected and that he died for our sins, right?

And could these last 2 parts (burried & resurrected) not simply be subsumed in Jesus being God? I mean when you believe he is God then you also believe that he was resurrected, right?

You have to include the whole passage in your analysis, 1 Cor. 15:1-8. When you do that it makes more sense. There are two primary points and two proofs. John Stott defines the "gospel events" this way: "Yet it is clear that the emphasis is on two, namely that Christ died (and was buried in order to prove it) and that Christ arose (and was seen in order to prove it). The appearance attested the reality of his resurrection, as the burial attested the reality of his death" (Christian Mission in the Modern World, 44).