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Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Wes Outwest, May 6, 2005.

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  1. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    What does Scripture say?

    Genesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    Has anything really changed since the flood? Isn't the natural man the same?
     
    #221 OldRegular, Jun 15, 2005
  2. rc

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    That is the dumbest statement I've EVER read.

    Try sticking to the Bible Wes... funny how hard you try to honor man? Can't you see your secular humanism? Why can't you find verses that say man doesn't 1/3 the time in the Bible?

    Buy the way... Here is the litmus test on works.
    All our RIGHTEOUSNESS is a filthy rages.

    Paul says whether you eat or drink, do ALL to the Glory of God. Guess what? EVERY person that isn't a Christian, (and ALLOT of the times for Christians unfortunately) DOESN'T DO ANY action for His glory. This is a command. Therefore it is sin. Every thought, every action a non-believer does is sinful, for they do not glorify God in it.

    YOUR statement fails miserably. When will you understand the GROSS sin man is in and the infinite Holiness that is God? .... Shame on you.
     
    #222 rc, Jun 17, 2005
  3. Wes Outwest

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    rc,
    That is the dumbest statement I've EVER read.</font>[/QUOTE]Who sins in their sleep? Unless of course you want to consider dreaming a sin!

    If you would get your nose out of the bible long enough, you might begin to understand what it is saying! The bible is about man from cover to cover, and It is God's Word, and For God's glory, but it is given to man, is for man, and is about man, is signed by God with love! I don't see in scriptures very much mention of other species of God's greation, only man! It is in truth God's plan for the redemption of mankind who fell to sin!

    I wonder if Noah knew that? After all he built an ARK that was used in his salvation from the flood. Sure, God told Noah to build it and how, but God did not do "the works" of building it. He left that up to man, a man of faith!

    You really are quite judgmental aren't you!

    When will you understand that sin...ALL SIN has been atoned BY GOD! And that sin no longer condemns those who have faith in God? NO! that does not mean we can sin with impunity, it simply means that sin does not condemn us. What does condemn us is our lack of faith in the Christ! What does condemn us is our lack of knowledge and neglect of God's principle of confession and forgiveness of sin. What does condemn us is our failure to repent from sin, because those who have faith can in that faith live a righteous life.

    You have a whole lot of rethinking to do.
     
    #223 Wes Outwest, Jun 23, 2005
  4. OCC

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    rc even unsaved people can glorify God in what they do. Are you saying an unsaved man and woman who work through difficulties, don't cheat on each other and don't get divorced...don't glorify God???
     
    #224 OCC, Jun 24, 2005
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    :cool:
     
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    #226 OCC, Jun 24, 2005
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    nice one! :cool:
     
    #227 johnp., Jun 24, 2005
  8. OCC

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    :D
     
    #228 OCC, Jun 24, 2005
  9. here now

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    Well RC may not say that it does not glorify God, but, I'm saying that it does not glorify God. The only way that it would glorify God is if they acknowledged that God were the reason they did the right thing.
     
    #229 here now, Jun 29, 2005
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