SavedByGrace
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There are good Bible believing and teaching Baptists who believe Melchizedek was the preincarnate Christ, such as John R, Rice.
does not make it right
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There are good Bible believing and teaching Baptists who believe Melchizedek was the preincarnate Christ, such as John R, Rice.
Correct. Yahweh, the Father.
I must have missed it.
Your dictionaries are no help here. Here it is Yahweh, the Father, said to the Son.
You can say God the Father said to God the Son. Or Yahweh, the Father said to Yahweh the Son.
That's what I said at the very beginning, but you said no. Jesus is 100% Yahweh. But that's like saying Jesus is 100% the Trinity. Can you say Jesus, the Father, Jesus the Son, and Jesus the Holy Spirit?
That's what you're saying.
To say that the Person of the Son has the name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, for Himself is oneness creeping into your thought. It is never used that way Scripturally.
Understanding that God the Father, the Son of God and the Holy Spirit are the one and the same LORD [Yahweh] God, does not make each distinct Person being Yahweh the Trinity, to be the other two Persons.To say that the Person of the Son has the name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, for Himself is oneness creeping into your thought. It is never used that way Scripturally.
But each Person has a title and name inapplicable to the others. That is revealed in the name Father, Son and Holy Ghost.Understanding that God the Father, the Son of God and the Holy Spirit are the one and the same LORD [Yahweh] God, does not make each distinct Person being Yahweh the Trinity, to be the other two Persons.
Deuteronony 6:4, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: . . ." Yahweh is One, not three parts. The Persons are three distinct Persons. Each Person are the whole Yahweh. The Persons are not parts of God, they are each the one and the same God.
The Name is not just a shared title but Who God is. Exodus 20:2, " I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage."But each Person has a title and name inapplicable to the others. That is revealed in the name Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
I get that. But, we are able to speak of, and to, one Person of the Godhead. And each Person has a specific address.The Name is not just a shared title but Who God is. Exodus 20:2, " I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage."
To say that the Person of the Son has the name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, for Himself is oneness creeping into your thought. It is never used that way Scripturally.
I have yet to hear the trinity explain in a way that doesn't cause strife and confusion in someone. The trinity is complicated, difficult, for the human mind to comprehend such a fact. Even though I myself believe it. It's just one of those mysteries that man will most likely never understand fully in this life. We should accept it as it is and move on.I think that you can't understand English
Thought God is eternal. so all 3 Persons are self existing?RANK HERESY!
That was not Jesus, but a type of Him!I believe that Jesus has always existed with the Father.I believe during the time of Abraham He was even Melchisedec,
Heb 7:2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
Who else could He have been?
MB
All 3 are Yahweh!Correct. Yahweh, the Father.
I must have missed it.
Your dictionaries are no help here. Here it is Yahweh, the Father, said to the Son.
You can say God the Father said to God the Son. Or Yahweh, the Father said to Yahweh the Son.
That's what I said at the very beginning, but you said no. Jesus is 100% Yahweh. But that's like saying Jesus is 100% the Trinity. Can you say Jesus, the Father, Jesus the Son, and Jesus the Holy Spirit?
That's what you're saying.
Right now, are they 3 Persons called as all being Yahweh, and yet only 1 Yahweh?I have yet to hear the trinity explain in a way that doesn't cause strife and confusion in someone. The trinity is complicated, difficult, for the human mind to comprehend such a fact. Even though I myself believe it. It's just one of those mysteries that man will most likely never understand fully in this life. We should accept it as it is and move on.
MB
Their would all have the very name of God , Yahweh!But each Person has a title and name inapplicable to the others. That is revealed in the name Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
None individually self exisiting.Thought God is eternal. so all 3 Persons are self existing?
Dang. I forgot the exclamation mark.None individually self exisiting.
How can one be God and not be self existing?None individually self exisiting.
How is there a Father without a Son?How can one be God and not be self existing?
He has sons, Job 1:6.How is there a Father without a Son?