The first problem is with the title. There is no eternal hell. There is an eternal Lake of Fire. Hell and death are thrown into the Lake of Fire, thus have an end.
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The eternal Hell
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I responded to what you said. I guess this is what you do when you have no argument.
No, because there is no rebuttal. I've just posted a list of all the sermons contained in Acts where the apostles mentioned Hell. There were no entries on the list. This is important because Acts is the model for evangelism and church planting. (Note: I'm not saying preaching on Hell is wrong, I'm saying it has it's place but it's not every time you open your mouth.)
Similarly, months ago, I posted an extensive list of all the times Paul went into the synagogues and preached rather than open air preach. There was/is no rebuttal to that either. That's one of the main reason he's put me on ignore.
No, Evan's MO is to ignore constructive criticism and just plow ahead on the same old path as before.
o the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. Oh yes, you can say "I don't save anyone".....ok then ....just get busy then!
So I know I'm on ignore but I'll post this anyways incase you take a peek. Here is an article you really should read and take to heart.Building a Teachable Spirit
You come on here asking the same questions and getting the same advice only to throw said advice back in the faces of those giving it. You really need to take more time to listen because its obvious that God is not using you as a means to win souls to Himself. If I didn't know any better I would say you are trying to push people away from Christ not toward Him.
You come on here asking the same questions and getting the same advice only to throw said advice back in the faces of those giving it. You really need to take more time to listen because its obvious that God is not using you as a means to win souls to Himself. If I didn't know any better I would say you are trying to push people away from Christ not toward Him.
Evangelism should be balanced. God's holiness should be balanced with God's love. Prosperity should be balanced with the truth of persecution. Hell should be balanced with Heaven. Wrath should be balanced with grace.
Well said.
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John - Rev didn't mention cal vs. arm. He posted a verse that directly contradicted what you said; when you responded by saying the translation was incorrect, he then showed you that the translation you used was basically the same ("winneth" vice "captures"). Then YOU brought up cal vs. arm. You didn't even address Rev's use of scripture or his actual defense against your response. What you did was try to dismiss his argument by bringing up something that doesn't have anything to do with his argument.
That's intellectually dishonest.
If you're not gonna admit scripture, then your whole evangelism effort is worthless, and all you're doing is preaching your opinion.
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It is interesting that he claimed the ESV said something different but at the same time did not actually post just exactly what the ESV said. It is obvious that he could not defend his original point and only worked to dismiss the fact I presented.
He is in need of some very deep discipleship. He lacks training in ministry, he does not understand what the church is and how he should be involved in it, and he sophomoric hermenuetical skills at best. This discussion is clear evidence of that.
Oh go chase a rabbit.
On the board Calvinist Cafe I asked a question and reformed baptist replied. I cannot post a link very easily away from my computer so perhaps someone else can post a link to that thread here. Thanks...
I believe it is against the rules to post links to other boards, is it not? Hilarious that he brings in a poster from another board to make his explanation for him, and that explanation includes, "scribal error". Never mind the dozens of translations employing learned translators that render the verse in the traditional manner. Once again, a Calvinist can't abide by the plain reading of the scripture and has to say "X" actually means "Y", and invoke all sorts of esoteric Greek interpretation in order for it to fit their theology.
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Can't you defend your position on your own?
Looked at your link; he's wrong.
Could someone please explain how Evan got from talking about hell to saying he was not arguing Cal vs Arm and linking to a whole other board?