The Eucharist Communion

[Cathode]

“ Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.”

When we abide in Jesus through the Eucharist, we take all our burdens to Him and rest in Him.

When Jesus abides in us in the Eucharist, we minister to Him and comfort Him during His bitter passion and sufferings for us. In this state, there is no time or distance in Love, we are perfectly present to Him in His passion.

Through life as we become weary and heavy burdened by our crosses, we abide in Him in the Eucharist our hearts synchronise with His and gain His strength.

In this moment Jesus is comforted by all those who deny themselves to abide in Him, to rest in His Mercy that He suffered so greatly in His Passion.
The Eucharist is the highest praise and thanksgiving of His Mercy in this world.

It is a feast of Love, Praise and Thanksgiving that we participate in now, but will go on into Eternity.

 

[Cathode]

The Eucharist does not offer anyone who eats it anything that Jesus promised

The Eucharist is Jesus. He comes to us in Covenantal Union, it is an exchange of persons, He gives all that He is to us, and we give all that we are to Him.

“ He who eats my fresh and drinks my blood, abides in me and I in Him “

It will take an Eternity of Love, Praise and Thanksgiving to make up for all Jesus suffered for us. Jesus had us in His mind and heart as He suffered, we who Love Him were His comfort, the ones who believed Him and received Him and His Mercy. So that all He suffered was not wasted and in vain.

The Eucharist is the foretaste of the Eternal Thanksgiving, each Communion puts us in a higher and greater state in the Eternal Thanksgiving.
The Eucharist is how we Glorify His Mercy, we can not give Him more than all we are at Communion.
When we abide in Jesus at Communion we already enter eternity for a moment, and our bonds to this earth are lessened each time as we are prepared for the Everlasting Feast.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Eucharist is Jesus. He comes to us in Covenantal Union, it is an exchange of persons, He gives all that He is to us, and we give all that we are to Him.

“ He who eats my fresh and drinks my blood, abides in me and I in Him “

It will take an Eternity of Love, Praise and Thanksgiving to make up for all Jesus suffered for us. Jesus had us in His mind and heart as He suffered, we who Love Him were His comfort, the ones who believed Him and received Him and His Mercy. So that all He suffered was not wasted and in vain.

The Eucharist is the foretaste of the Eternal Thanksgiving, each Communion puts us in a higher and greater state in the Eternal Thanksgiving.
The Eucharist is how we Glorify His Mercy, we can not give Him more than all we are at Communion.
When we abide in Jesus at Communion we already enter eternity for a moment, and our bonds to this earth are lessened each time as we are prepared for the Everlasting Feast.

lol.

I met Christ 50 years agi, I have the fullness of Christ in me

I also have his Holy SPirit, who has anointed me, and given to me as a pledge.

I mean, if you want to meet him in some ceremony, that he said do only to remember him, feel free.

I pray you meet Christ one day, the real jesus

 

[Cathode]

lol.

I met Christ 50 years agi, I have the fullness of Christ in me

I also have his Holy SPirit, who has anointed me, and given to me as a pledge.

I mean, if you want to meet him in some ceremony, that he said do only to remember him, feel free.

I pray you meet Christ one day, the real jesus

Well you seem to know everything, couldn’t possibly learn something new.

It may be better for you to remain invincibility ignorant, than to venture into these subjects with a mocking attitude.

From my vantage, you seem like someone who will never understand remotely close to what I am talking about.

For some people it is not given for them to understand, no one comes to Jesus in the Eucharist unless the Father draws them.

There is no point showing someone something if they don’t have faculties to appreciate it, and I am not denigrating your intelligence here.

If it is not given, it is not given.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Well you seem to know everything, couldn’t possibly learn something new.

if you want to teach me something, then teach me why Jesus lied in John 6. many times over.

It may be better for you to remain invincibility ignorant, than to venture into these subjects with a mocking attitude.

From my vantage, you seem like someone who will never understand remotely close to what I am talking about.

For some people it is not given for them to understand, no one comes to Jesus in the Eucharist unless the Father draws them.

There is no point showing someone something if they don’t have faculties to appreciate it, and I am not denigrating your intelligence here.

If it is not given, it is not given.

Your talking catholic speak. You think you are right, and your church has no error. I am not the one who is in a bad spot blindly following people who can not learn. that would be you

Again,

You want to relate to God based on self righteousness. Feel free.

I have a relationship with God that can not be broken,,

 

[Cathode]

if you want to teach me something, then teach me why Jesus lied in John 6. many times over.



Your talking catholic speak. You think you are right, and your church has no error. I am not the one who is in a bad spot blindly following people who can not learn. that would be you

Again,

You want to relate to God based on self righteousness. Feel free.

I have a relationship with God that can not be broken,,

I would rather not disturb the simple Faith you have in Jesus, than partially inform you to a point of culpability, because once certain things are understood then response and action is required of a soul.
Wisdom and prudence has its own feasibility study, it has to be reasonably feasible to properly inform certain people.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I would rather not disturb the simple Faith you have in Jesus, than partially inform you to a point of culpability, because once certain things are understood then response and action is required of a soul.
Wisdom and prudence has its own feasibility study, it has to be reasonably feasible to properly inform certain people.

again

you want to do anything, explain to me why Jesus lied

Jesus said whoever eats will never die - You say Jesus lied. we can still die
Jesus said whoever eats will never hunger and thirst. - You say he lied. that not only will we hunger and thirst. we need to hunger and thirst weekly
Jesus said we will never be lost - You say Jesus lied. we can still go to hell (be lost)
Jesus said we have eternal life. - You say Jesus lied. we have conditional life
Jesus said whoever eats will be raised on the last day. You say Jesus lied and we may still be delievered and sent to hell..

I can go on and on and on.

You explain why Jesus lied and why I should listen to a liar, and I will listen to you

Until then, You have nothing, period

 

[Cathode]

again

you want to do anything, explain to me why Jesus lied

I was doing you a genuine solid, but you didn’t recognise it in your blindness. I don’t think you are capable of grasping what I am talking about, we will be talking past each other.
At best you will partially learn something, reject it, then be culpable for it. Is this what you want?

Jesus said whoever eats will never die - You say Jesus lied. we can still die

Jesus said “ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the Last Day “

Obviously Jesus isn’t talking about eternal life such that there is no physical death, because then He says He will raise that person up on the Last Day, meaning He will raise them from the dead to then have eternal life.

See, this is why I don’t think you are capable of understanding what I am talking about, truly no disrespect. Many of your other responses have shown you either didn’t understand or didn’t even read what I wrote.

Jesus said whoever eats will never hunger and thirst. - You say he lied. that not only will we hunger and thirst. we need to hunger and thirst weekly

Again, you aren’t grasping the scripture or explanations I have given you. You are in a simplistic carnal mindset with these verses.

Jesus persisted in His explanations to the woman at the well because He knew she could finally grasp what He was saying, even after she said.

“Sir, give me this water so that I won't get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.”

There is a carnal human level of understanding and for some it is invincible.

Please assume my good will here, because I don’t have confidence you will understand what I am talking about. Catholic speak or not.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I was doing you a genuine solid, but you didn’t recognise it in your blindness. I don’t think you are capable of grasping what I am talking about, we will be talking past each other.

You did not do anything for me, well yeah you did. You strengthened my faith that I am right, because you could not prove me wrong. and did not even try to address it..

You can not even show me WHY jesus lied.

All your doing is convincing yourself. that your precious church, who you think is infallible. has not led you astray.

Moving on

 

[Cathode]

Cyprian also warns of those unworthy of the Eucharist and relates incidents regarding this.

“And another woman, when she tried with unworthy hands to open her box, in which was the holy (body) of the Lord, was deterred by fire rising from it from daring to touch it. And when one, who himself was defiled, dared with the rest to receive secretly a part of the sacrifice celebrated by the priest; he could not eat nor handle the holy (body )of the Lord, but found in his hands when opened that he had a cinder. Thus by the experience of one it was shown that the Lord withdraws when He is denied; nor does that which is received benefit the undeserving for salvation , since saving grace is changed by the departure of the sanctity into a cinder.” Cyprian Bishop of Carthage, De Lapsis 250 Ad

The Eucharist does not benefit those unworthy but brings curses because it is Covenantal. Covenant brings blessing, but they also bring curses to the unworthy.

 

[Cathode]

“In a profane body and mouth the Eucharist could not remain; the draught sanctified in the blood of the Lord burst forth from the polluted stomach. So great is the Lord's power, so great is His majesty. The secrets of darkness were disclosed under His light, and not even hidden crimes deceived God's priest.” Cyprian Bishop of Carthage, De Lapsis 250 Ad

This was an account of those that ate from the pagan sacrifice but later received the Eucharist.

As Paul said.

“You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot share in the Lord's table and the table of demons.” 1 Cor 10:21

This is why there was no melding of Pagan and Christian practices, the pagans were genuine demon worshippers. And not even an infant could be given the Eucharist after being fed idol sacrifice food, it was profaned and God will not allow this without great vengeance for the sacrilege.

Bishop Cyprian was later martyred by the Romans in 258 Ad.

 

[Mikoo]

You did not do anything for me, well yeah you did. You strengthened my faith that I am right, because you could not prove me wrong. and did not even try to address it..

You can not even show me WHY jesus lied.

All your doing is convincing yourself. that your precious church, who you think is infallible. has not led you astray.

Moving on

You are SO spot on!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are SO spot on!

its simple

Jesus said whoever eats will get this.

does EVERYONE who eats get EVERYTHING jesus said they would get

or do they not.

if they do not. or may not

then either Jesus lied. or your belief is in error.

 

[Cathode]

its simple

Jesus said whoever eats will get this.

does EVERYONE who eats get EVERYTHING jesus said they would get

or do they not.

if they do not. or may not

then either Jesus lied. or your belief is in error.

Or your simplistic understanding is in error.

There is a big difference between simple and simplistic.

You obviously either didn’t read my answer explaining this to you, or you don’t have the faculties to understand the explanation.

Look at Jesus words again.

“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life “

Is he saying that that person will never physically die from then on?

No, because he qualifies it in the second half of the sentence.

“ , and I will raise him up on the last day “

This assumes physical death but that person will be raised from death on the last day to eternal life.

Can you grasp this?

 

[Wesley Briggman]

When we abide in Jesus through the Eucharist, we take all our burdens to Him and rest in Him.

The scripture listed does not relate "abiding in Christ" to the Eucharist. Please provide scripture to support your claim that abiding in Christ is related to the Eucharist

(Jhn 15:4 KJV) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
(Jhn 15:7 KJV) If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The scripture listed does not relate "abiding in Christ" to the Eucharist. Please provide scripture to support your claim that abiding in Christ is related to the Eucharist

(Jhn 15:4 KJV) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
(Jhn 15:7 KJV) If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

yes

this is about bearing fruit.

not keeping oneself saved.

 

[Cathode]

Please provide scripture to support your claim that abiding in Christ is related to the Eucharist

(Jhn 15:4 KJV) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
(Jhn 15:7 KJV) If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

It is at the Eucharist when we receive Jesus The Word, that we ask what we will, it is the most intimate time between God and man, it is Communion.

We believe Jesus words, that His flesh is real food and blood is real drink, believing this, we are robed in faith and can come to Him in the Eucharist and eat His Body and drink His Blood.
We recognise the Lord at the breaking of the bread.

The Eucharist is Jesus Himself who comes to us with great graces to sustain us and to make us fruitful.

I have had very powerful spiritual experiences with Jesus in The Holy Eucharist, this is the wedding feast of The Lamb. Covenants are complete exchanges of persons and this is what happens when we eat Jesus flesh and drink His blood.

The scripture listed does not relate "abiding in Christ" to the Eucharist.

“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, abides in me and I in him “

Jesus own words relate abiding in Him to eating His flesh and drinking His blood.

“ Take this all of you and eat it, this is my body “

“ The bread that I shall give for the life of the world, is my flesh. “

“ My flesh is real food and my blood is real drink “

This is the new and everlasting Covenant.

“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock. If any man shall hear my voice, and open to me the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”

Many hear His voice and do not open their door. Jesus invites many to eat His flesh and drink His blood, but they do not believe that His flesh real food and blood is real drink.
So their door is closed to the Eucharist.
To believe is not just intellectual assent, to believe is to eat His flesh and drink His blood as told us to in Faith.

The invitation has been sent out to all, the very words of Jesus in Scripture which should suffice you and also the voice of the Fathers and Martyrs who testified with their blood.

The invitation to this feast is roared and bellowed by the words of Christ in Scripture and all the Early Christians down to even a nobody like myself.

Yet people will make their excuses not to attend this feast, to attend it would cost them, possibly their present respect and standing or even livelihood.

If you can truly believe though all the Heavenly cosmos and physical cosmos will pass away and Jesus words will never pass away then it is easy to believe Jesus words when He says.

“ My flesh is real food and my blood is real drink “

“ Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.”

This is why we keep receiving Jesus in the Eucharist, He is The Vine and we are the branches that receive His Life to sustain us.

“ So he who eats me, will live because of me “

“They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. They who deny this gift of God are perishing ” Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to Smyrnaeans, 7,1 (c. A.D. 110).

Bishop of Antioch, disciple of John, Martyr in the pagan arenas.

 

[Cathode]

Those who Love Jesus cannot fail to recognise Him in The Holy Eucharist.

It is The Lord.

There is bursting gratitude, Love and Joy, and all other loves disappear, He does come into us and sup with us and we with Him.

Jesus is the object of all our souls longing, His Holiness clears our darkness and wounds.

“Having learn these things, and been fully assured that the seeming bread is not bread, though sensible to taste, but the Body of Christ; and that the seeming wine is not wine, though the taste will have it so, but the Blood of Christ; and that of this David sung of old, saying, And bread strengtheneth man’s heart, to make his face to shine with oil, ‘strengthen thou thine heart,’ by partaking thereof as spiritual, and “make the face of thy soul to shine.”” Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures, XXII:8 (c. A.D. 350)

I know exactly what this ancient Bishop of Jerusalem is saying, it’s exactly what happens receiving the Holy Eucharist. Jesus lights up our soul.

We say before Communion, “ Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed. “

 

[Cathode]

“This is the will of him who sent me: that I should lose none of those he has given me but should raise them up on the last day.”

“ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the Last Day. “

We who receive Jesus in the Eucharist are the vindication of all His suffering, that His suffering was not in vain. We are also His Eternal consolation.

In Communion as Jesus abides in us, it is sweetness to the mouth as His Holy Love and Light fills our souls, healing us.
But as we abide in Him it is bitterness to the stomach as we share in His passion, and the sufferings of His heart for us become truly known to us. As both hearts are laid bare in Covenant exchange, Jesus hides nothing.
This is why we will give all praise, honour and glory to Him and His Mercy forever, and rightly do we give Jesus all praise, honour and glory for endless ages, as we Love and Console Him forever.

In the Eucharist we begin this Eternal Thanksgiving and Praise in this world. This is the foretaste of the Eternal Worship to come.

 

[Mikoo]

its simple

Jesus said whoever eats will get this.

does EVERYONE who eats get EVERYTHING jesus said they would get

or do they not.

if they do not. or may not

then either Jesus lied. or your belief is in error.

IMHO. You have to remember that cathode is a full blown, rc denomination blinders on, brainwashed member of the rc denomination. Kind of reminds me of trying to give the Truth of God's Word to a mormon. Very cult-like.