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robustheologian

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Blame on fraud, blame it on Obama, blame it on Batman, blame it on Superman...doesn't change the fact that President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect are in there and Trump is FIRED!! :Laugh
 

atpollard

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Blame on fraud, blame it on Obama, blame it on Batman, blame it on Superman...doesn't change the fact that President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect are in there and Trump is FIRED!! :Laugh
More like they have finished interviewing replacements.
In December he will get a pink slip and he will need to clear out his personal effects in January.
You really keep jumping the gun on the Election Process.

Personally, I think the lack of hard evidence presented in actual Courts and resulting in decisions hurts the credibility of those crying "fraud". I will still wait to see the recount so we know the numbers are free of computer glitches and wait until the Court decides on the real evidence and affirms that the election WAS honest or affirms that there is evidence of SIGNIFICANT criminal activity.

Personally, I expect a Biden victory from a legal but controversial election.
 

Benjamin

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What’s “going on” is that the mail-in votes are being validated against signatures on voter registration cards and against the voter records, so no one can vote twice.

it is a tedious process, and that process has been well known by those who don’t isolate themselves from real information.

Most of us have known for a long time that it might take up to two weeks to get all the votes counted. The recounts, if needed, won’t take nearly as long because every ballot will have been validated by then.
You know, I wasn't answer this nonsense but you really insult my intelligence if you expect me to buy into these lies! Anyone with the eyes for truth can see what is going on here.

No buddy, NOTHING about what is going on with mail-in ballots in this process passes the sniff test for honesty. NONE of the excuses to stop the count and then proceed at a snails pace holds water. AZ has been using mail-in ballots for years and was able to count 2 mil votes on election night but then is only only able to count 50k a day, do you think we are stupid!! Listen fool, you can't verify ballots that have been secretly removed from envelopes and added to mix while observers were not allowed to watch, so don't try to feed me nonsense about recounts!!
 

atpollard

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Of the States involved ...
Alaska, Colorado, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont
... only Michigan is even close.
Alaska has always voted Republican (and is still counting Republican votes for Trump) and the others have always voted Democrat by wide margins. Even if there was RADICAL FRAUD, it only affected the Popular Vote and not the Electoral Vote. The simplest answer is that people moved out of these states and the Voter Records have not kept up. That does not mean those registered voters actually voted in their old state.

Sure, investigate it ... but this is not a smoking gun.
 

777

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A few years ago, Trump tried to get these states to clean up their voter rolls, but had to quit the project because so many states balked. I know snowbirds here that have two residences in different states and vote in both with no repercussions. Their justification is that they pay property taxes in both.

Arizona is a big target of them, nice weather, lots of retirees. Like Florida, but less humid and without all the election irregularities this year. They managed to count more votes faster. 2000 taught them a lesson.

Trump today dropped one lawsuit in AZ today, but there are others pending. Not too reassuring that Hobbs is the secretary of state down there:

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she certifies the vote.
 

Baptist Believer

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You know, I wasn't answer this nonsense but you really insult my intelligence if you expect me to buy into these lies! Anyone with the eyes for truth can see what is going on here.
Uh huh.

No buddy...
Obviously, I'm not your buddy. You make personal attacks on me all the time. You decided a LONG time ago that I was your enemy. I don't consider you an enemy at all, but I guess that doesn't matter.

...NOTHING about what is going on with mail-in ballots in this process passes the sniff test for honesty. NONE of the excuses to stop the count and then proceed at a snails pace holds water.
They aren't "excuses," they are statements of fact.

AZ has been using mail-in ballots for years and was able to count 2 mil votes on election night...
...they were the votes of people who voted on Election Day in person, so they didn't have to do verification...

...but then is only only able to count 50k a day...
...and then they began verification and counting of mail-in votes.

...do you think we are stupid!!
No, just deceived and irrational because of your anger and embarrassment.

I imagine you are angry because I predicted Biden would win over Trump and tried to provide some reality checks for your "Red Wave" enthusiasm. In that same post, I predicted that it would take a couple of weeks to count votes, Trump would claim fraud and try to take it to the Supreme Court. Of course, you mocked it. But that is exactly what has happened. But of course, you asserted that "the Left" was going "to manufacture 'uncounted' votes and steal the election" before the election -- based on no evidence -- so it is hardly surprising that you would latch on to every spurious claim pushed by the President and his supporters that affirms your prejudices. And to reveal your heart in the matter, you claimed that you looked forward "to liberal tears flowing into my America First cup" after the election, and you awaited the "melting Snowflakes," but didn't realize that the President and his supporters were the ones whose emotions would cause them to lash out.

You predicted a "GIANT RED WAVE," and it didn't happen. What you should have discerned from this is that you are out of touch with the mainstream of the United States -- you are wrapped up in a right-wing echo chamber.

Listen fool...
"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be answerable to the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be answerable to the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell." - Jesus, as quoted in Matthew 5:22

...you can't verify ballots that have been secretly removed from envelopes and added to mix while observers were not allowed to watch, so don't try to feed me nonsense about recounts!!
Observers have been allowed to watch. Every one of those allegations that have gone to court has fallen apart after a few questions and/or persons have been placed under oath.
 

Jerome

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AZ [counted] 2 mil votes on election night
...they were the votes of people who voted on Election Day in person
Huh?

Arizonans historically vote ~80% by mail, and even more so this year:

Arizona Vote by Mail
Ballot by mail has been available in Arizona for over two decades and approximately 80% of Arizona voters already choose this method to vote....[2020] Primary Election...[it was] almost 88% of the vote



If Baptist Believer is to be believed, suddenly this election more than half (2M) voted in person, instead of the usual 20%!

[approximately 3.4 million total ballots cast in Arizona this election source]
 

Baptist Believer

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If Baptist Believer is to be believed, suddenly this election more than half (2M) voted in person, instead of the usual 20%!
I made an error. I had not looked at the way Arizona processes votes. However, I knew that Arizona had a large turnout on Election Day, as I had previously read a story about large numbers of Native Americans voting on November 3rd.

However, upon doing a little more checking, Arizona had processed more than 1.5 million early votes by October 30, 2020, and had already received 2.3 million early votes. Since they started verifying and counting the votes on October 20, they were processing votes at an average pace of 150,000/day. So more than 2 million votes counted on Election Day is perfectly reasonable, and the delay in counting the rest of them is also quite reasonable.

With all of the uncertainty about early voting this year, it would make sense that many Arizonans would decide to vote in person, even after receiving an early ballot. That actually slows down the vote count:

“Anyone who received an early ballot from us, if they go to the polls they have to vote a provisional ballot,” she said. “Those are the last ballots to get counted and it takes like three times longer for us to verify those provisional ballots than just a quick signature verification on an early ballot.”

"County recorders were generally too busy this week to speculate on whether heavy early voting will lead to faster returns on election night: Counties in Arizona were allowed to begin counting early ballots on Oct. 20, two weeks before the election.

Some experts think that, with this many early ballots already being counted, returns could roll in quickly on Tuesday."
 

Benjamin

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Don't start counting your chickens just yet, your eggs are looking cracked.
I still do look forward to it.
Actually, I think it did happen but was covertly covered up by a scheme that is looking likely to be uncovered which will bring a revolution down on the Deep State and Lying Left.

- Jesus, as quoted in Matthew 5:22
Pro 10:18 He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool.
 

Baptist Believer

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Actually, I think it did happen but was covertly covered up by a scheme that is looking likely to be uncovered which will bring a revolution down on the Deep State and Lying Left.
All you need is evidence. Good luck.

Pro 10:18 He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool.
Good tip. Please follow this advice.
 

Benjamin

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All you need is evidence. Good luck.
Typical Democrat response, catch me if you can.

Obviously, I'm not your buddy. You make personal attacks on me all the time. You decided a LONG time ago that I was your enemy. I don't consider you an enemy at all, but I guess that doesn't matter.

P.S. You might want to look up the fallacy of Reverse Ad Hominem.
 
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David Kent

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Our pastor gave us a petoral visit recently and in part of the conversation, I said "As trump. Donald not Judd) has taken up politics, did he think that Alan Sugar wouldf.?" He replied "Sugar is much more intelligent than trump."
 

Benjamin

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Our pastor gave us a petoral visit recently and in part of the conversation, I said "As trump. Donald not Judd) has taken up politics, did he think that Alan Sugar wouldf.?" He replied "Sugar is much more intelligent than trump."
Not sure what your pastor having TDS has to do with that this ain't over till its over.
 
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atpollard

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What you should have discerned from this is that you are out of touch with the mainstream of the United States -- you are wrapped up in a right-wing echo chamber.
This is a mischaracterization. A 51% vs 49% election (either way) is hardly out of touch with “the mainstream”. By your definition, 49% of the country is out of touch with the “mainstream”. It is the polarized extremes and near 50/50 split that renders the term “mainstream” to be currently meaningless. There are two, main streams flowing in opposite directions.
 

Baptist Believer

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This is a mischaracterization. A 51% vs 49% election (either way) is hardly out of touch with “the mainstream”.
It was in reference to the “RED WAVE” thread and posts that Trump was going to win by a landslide.

it’s clear that Benjamin, and many others who posted on the thread, had no sense that a Biden win was probable. While polls overestimated Democratic performance down the ticket and failed in some areas (Florida, for instance), the potential for Biden to win was quite high.

Since I have friends and family on both sides of the political divide, and I have seen known quite a few Trump supporter to have soured on him in the midst of a deeply red part of Texas, it was quite clear to me that Trump was unlikely to win.

That’s all I’m saying.
 

777

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too many statistical anomalies - you can make the case that the presidential election is almost mathematically impossible:

“Trump won the largest non-white vote share for a Republican presidential candidate in 60 years. Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”

Robert Barnes, the foremost election analyst, observes in these “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.”

Trump’s victories in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin were on target until, in the middle of the night, counting was arbitrarily halted. Miraculously, several hundred thousand votes – all for Biden – were mysteriously ‘found’; Trump’s real leads subsequently vanished.
Pollster: It's Curious How Biden Underperformed Hillary Clinton In Every City...Except These Four.

but who knows, the odds of the DNA's evidence being wrong in the OJ trial was even higher, and the jury ignored it all.

All you need is evidence. Good luck.

SEE-NO-EVIDENCE.jpg
 

SGO

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In this great country of ours where everyone stands for truth and dignity there has never been any cheating whatsoever in the presidential vote.

Just sore losers.

Voter Fraud
 
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