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Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by LarryN, Aug 10, 2005.

  1. dianetavegia

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    Thank you too for your kind words.
     
  2. Gregory Perry Sr.

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    I find it somewhat disturbing that our own Dr.Bob seems to hang around in there and post quite a bit.Doc....I think you'd do well to come out from among them before the "lump gets leavened".I don't always agree with everything Doc Bob says but I do respect him....just don't want to see any of our good folk over here infected by that stuff.I'm a KJV'er but those people been drinking Ruckmans koolaid or something.I agree with you Roger...a few minutes in there and you come away feeling kinda defiled.

    Greg Sr.
     
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    James Chapter 3 comes to mind after what was said by a "pastor" about Diane. Ugh.
     
  4. Dr. Bob

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    Leave the FFF? How ludicrous. It is an unmoderated forum (they truly HATE heavy-fisted moderators and use the BaptistBoard as an example of such).

    It is a different format. MOST of the posters there are recovering from the abuse of the hyles or clone type ministries and colleges. There are a few die hard "Hyles is god" types, and some looney-tune "onlies", but most is just banter.

    I enjoy the loose, free discussion with a lot of people who have been terribly hurt by fundamentalism.

    BTW, it has NOTHING to do with "Jack Hyles" per se. That Don hosts it on a site that has lots of hylesish nonsense on it is NO ENDORSEMENT of the false salvation, filthy conduct, etc that is common of that group.
     
  5. FundamentalDan

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    Doc,

    I admire your trying, but I think it is hopeless to try to reason or reconcile the two boards together. Those of us who post on both sites are rare, and nobody on either board is going to understand it unless they are one of them. I post on the BB, but prefer the FFF because of the lack of (editing). Some people here prefer the (editing), and I guess that is their preference. It does rile me that some would try to lump everyone who posts on the FFF in the same category, but some on the FFF do the same thing to themselves. So, I will just say this- "Brethren, ye have been called unto liberty..."

    Oh, and give me back the old-fashioned FFF. I do not like this modernist FFF version.
     
  6. AVL1984

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    Well if THAT does't speak VOLUMES!

    No thanks!
    </font>[/QUOTE]This is only because Brother Elbourne's renewal, which is usually automatic, wasn't done. Some people here really need to watch their attitudes towards the FFF. And [I}NO, Diane[/] It does NOT speak volumes. I don't usually like to go against administrators, even here, but, that was just plain wrong on your part. I think some here who DO post on the FFF deserve an apology from you. :(
     
  7. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I posted for a short time on the old FFF and did not have much problem, just not my preference of boards or styles.

    I happened across the new site and was stunned by the ungodly things I saw there, including a link to a pornographic site and very foul language.

    I have no problem with and unmoderated board, if that is one's preference, but hopefully there will he a little editing, at least to stop that kind of trolling and abuse of liberty.
     
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    Bro. Roger, I post there now and again. I left for a while and came back to the BB...it was for recovery and wanting a cleaner environment. When I first started posting there many years ago, it was a clean forum. Then others who didn't like the fact that Jack Hyles wasn't a God tried to shut Bro. Elbourne's site down by hacking it, overloading it with posts that were filthy, and by using many different "troll" personalities. They are again doing so. Those of us who post there who know who the regular posters are, usually post to each other. Some will, on occasion (including me) will be agitated enough at times to take on a troll...or may do it for fun, which is usually the case with me. I had a troll following me for several weeks, overloading my email address with porn and all kinds of junk. That's ok...my attorneys and brother in law (law enforcement officer) are working on that particular situation. I just don't like to see the FFF bashed for no good reason. Don has clearly posted that there will be offensive posts, and that we should bring them to his attention, and many of us do. Usually, they are taken care of pretty quickly. But, sometimes he is not available, and he has considered allowing some to "moderate" to the degree of getting the filth of as quickly as it comes up. Usin this phhbb format, he can do that pretty easily...if he decides to stay with it, which personally,I hope he does.

    Granted, because of the language, there have been times I have had to walk away for several days or weeks at a time.
     
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    I was told that I would like the link...Brother Roger. Please PM it to me.

    Thanks
     
  10. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Sorry, my comment was tongue in cheek as was Diane's about regreting missing the link. [​IMG]
     
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    LOL....That be kewl! [​IMG]
     
  12. gopchad

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    No one who is posting with their real names likes it either. It is hopefully a temporary problem. BTW, the link to the porno site I saw was clearly a porno link in the text. I just didn't click the link. That stuff is the kind of stuff that should be deleted. Not the content of a person's opinion, which is unfortunately what I have seen deleted/edited here in the past. Let a person call the NIV a perversion (I am not) in the translations forum and see how long that post stays up. I just think people ought to have thicker skin... WAY too sensitive.

    Chad Fletcher
     
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    Well, the FFF isn't for people who are overly sensitive. If you go to the Fundamental 500, it is listed with a warning....people should heed that warning if they can't handle it.
     
  14. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Understand Chad - the link was obvious so no one in their right miond who was right with God would have clicked on it.

    Different boards for different folks I suppose.

    The posting policies here, escpecially in the versions forum are there for all to see. When one joins a board he agrees to abide by that board's rules, be they strict or loose. The rules here and at the FFF are different, that is clear from the start. Let those who post in both abide by the rules or lack of rules depending on where they are.

    Perhaps the early day problems on the new temp site will be solved, I hope so. We each like to post in a place where we feel comfortable.

    I have merely stated that I was stunned at the horrible posts which appeared there the first few days. I don't remember that kind of stuff when I used to visit the old FFF a couple of years ago.

    May we get to the point where both of these boards operate in a God honouring manner.
     
  15. gopchad

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    The FFF has a more specific target than the BB, hence the reason that some on here would never go to the FFF. I was not stunned by the posts on the FFF at all. You just learn very wuickly whose posts not to read. Just look at the number of views that the trolls get. They are generally much lower than a legitimate post. The downside to no moderating is short periods of anarchy. I for one support extremely limited moderating to filter out gross profanity and inappropriate links. I think the BB moderators at times have gone to far... however I agree with you on the part about knowing the rules upfront. If one cannot abide them they should go elsewhere. One must accept though that the rules in the versions forum does limit the debate and the participants. I am not KJVO, I am KJVP/TRP. But I do not like to have the KJVO crowd silenced even if they rant using words like "perversions", etc. I think it is hard for some people not to let personal opinions/feelings affect the moderating process, and there is inevitable unfair treatment that results. I found the BB first, but the lack of moderating is what drew me to the FFF. I think in time, and with the change to more updated software, that it will clean up rather nicely.

    Chad Fletcher

    P.S. - Just read your post on the FFF. It is appreciated.
     
  16. ChrisTag

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    Hello everyone. My name is Chris Tagliarini. My first experience with a message board was the old FFF. I logged on under the name ThisTreasure. When I first logged on, there was some biblical discussion and some fellowship - you know, fluff.

    Now, there is little biblical discussion. And what biblical discussion is there is mired in a bunch of filth from trolls or regular posters. It's not just the trolls that post the vulgarities.

    The threads also usually degenerate into personal attacks. That's not the reason I go there. I went originally for the biblical discussion. I ended up making a few friends and go back usually only to check for one of their posts. The place is addicting - at least it used to be. It is a little clunky for me now since I am not used to the new format. But before, you could pop in and browse for, well, for too long.

    Will I stop going to the FFF? Nope. Will I go there as often? I hope not. There is little that is edifying there and I have enough trouble from the world - I don't need to get it from a bunch of Christians, too.

    It MUST be said that there are many posters on the FFF, like Chad and even Dr. Bob ;) and others, who uphold their testimony for the most part. I am just as guilty as the next guy of "going off" on someone. I guess it's like someone here said - you get to the point where you feel defiled when you leave. There is some stuff on there that is not fit for a Christian to read. I would be horrified if my wife were to read over my shoulder and some of that be there.

    Well, this post is way too long...I think the sticking point for me was when the Fundamentalist Top 500 put a disclaimer and a warning next to the link to the FFF. It's also hard to think about whatsoever things are pure, lovely, etc when you have to sift through filth to get to good, biblical discussion.
     
  17. dianetavegia

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    Originally posted by C4K:
    Understand Chad - the link was obvious so no one in their right mind who was right with God would have clicked on it.

    Originally posted by gopchad:
    You really should try the FFF sometime. I get bored with this place easily, everyone here is much too civil. The FFF has more characters than an afternoon of Springer and Soap Operas (the BaptistBoard's own Dr. Bob included.)

    Diane Replied:
    No thanks. First, I'd never have my name associated with Jack Hyles. Secondly, I'm NOT a fighter and NOT fundamental enough for the IFB fundamentalist and have would never watch a Soap Opera or Springer. I'll stay here and spread the SBC Love. (Silly emoticon removed here)

    I'm sorry I offended those people on FFF for my stand on Jack Hyles lifestyle and not wanting my name associated with his, but I would not join any board that is sponsored by or hosted by even a Charles Stanley, Jim Bakker and others.

    Diane
     
  18. ChrisTag

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    Diane,

    I don't think it was your stand against Hyles as it was that it looked like you lumped everyone in with Hyles. Most people on that board don't want anything to do with Hyles and they are on a crusade against all things Hyles, Baptist Board member Dr. Bob included.

    On the FFF there are supposedly two types of people - the pro-Hyles style of independent Baptist and the anti-Hyles style of independent Baptist. There reality is that there are some of us there who are fair and balanced and see the good and bad in both "camps" while choosing to remain faithful to the Bible and our Lord.

    Sorry - just trying to clarify.
     
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    Hey, Chris...Glad to see you here, too! I didn't realize you were just over in Knoxville. [​IMG] We're in Bell Buckle/Murfreesboro.

    I know personally, I'm not a Hyles fan, just from personal experience, and I don't believe Don is either (the owner of jackhyles.net)...
     
  20. ChrisTag

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    Hey Tony!! Yeah, we're just about 3 hours [?] away. I remember reading that you were from Murfreesboro when I first logged on to the FFF, but I had forgotten.

    Are you near White Pine (I think that's the name)? A buddy of mine from Crown is taking a church there - Volunteer Baptist Church.

    I am not a big Hyles fan either. I am not on a crusade against him, either. I am quite sure that Don is not a Hyles fan.

    I am really trying (to no avail LOL) to wean myself off of these boards. The FFF has taken on a personality that I am just not comfortable with. Both sides are guilty of so much vulgarity and unChristian posts. I don't know how I'll like this format, but if I don't have to look at profanity, I'm glad about that. I'm sure there will be vain babbling anywhere I post. ;)
     
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