"The Freedom Crusade"

[poncho]

Then surely you must see that what we loosely call our government is nothing more today than an organized criminal enterprise on both sides of the aisle dragging this country into the pit along with them.

 

[Bunyon]

Yea, but they aren't equally bad are theay?

 

[poncho]

Originally posted by Bunyon:
Yea, but they aren't equally bad are theay?

Equally bad, What kind of a question is that?

Bad compared to what the ten commandments, U.S. constitution, bill of rights, magna carta, habeous corpus?

Or bad compared to the other side?

 

[Bunyon]

"Equally bad, What kind of a question is that?"

You used the phrase, "criminal enterprise on BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE".

Come on now, Poncho, if you can't keep up with your own context what hope do we have of communicating.

 

[poncho]

Actually the phrase I used is "organized criminal enterprise on both sides of the aisle".

Let me rephrase my questions then for contextual purposes. Bad compared to what the ten commandments, U.S. constitution, bill of rights, magna carta, habeous corpus?

Or bad compared to the other side?

Or would you rather just avoid these questions and just sit here pick nits instead?

 

[Bunyon]

Both sides of the asile can only mean Democrates and Republicans. But perhaps you have come up with some novel use for the phrase.

 

[poncho]

Both sides of the asile can only mean Democrates and Republicans.

That's what I figure too!

But perhaps you have come up with some novel use for the phrase.

Yeah I did..."organized criminal enterprise on both sides of the aisle". But you knew that already.

Now that we're both contextually in tune, care to answer my questions?

Bad compared to what the ten commandments, U.S. constitution, bill of rights, magna carta, habeous corpus?

Or bad compared to the other side?

 

[Brother James]

Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
I disagree strongly with Adams' isolationism. I also disagree that military force is the sole means of the Bush doctrine.

I support the Bush doctrine of spreading democracy.

Joseph Botwinick

So you support the killing of anyone who doesn't share your political views? We ought to be more concerned with spreading the Gospel and not "democracy".

 

[Bro. Curtis]

The above is an excellent example of how having an intelligent conversation here is never going to happen.

 

[Brother James]

Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
The above is an excellent example of how having an intelligent conversation here is never going to happen.

You don't find it odd that a christian would promote the invasion and killing of the populace of a nation to spread a certain type of political system? I don't find this anywhere in the New Testament.

 

[Bunyon]

No, BJ, we find it odd that you would accuse Joseph of wanting to kill anyone for any unjust reason.

 

[Brother James]

Originally posted by Bunyon:
No, BJ, we find it odd that you would accuse Joseph of wanting to kill anyone for any unjust reason.

Do you think we should kill or are justified in killing people in foreign nations in order to remake thier government the way we think it should be? Can you show me that in the New Testament?

 

[poncho]

Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
The above is an excellent example of how having an intelligent conversation here is never going to happen.

I know what ya mean, it's kinda like being the only one in the deer hunt using a loaded gun.

 

[Bunyon]

"I know what ya mean, it's kinda like being the only one in the deer hunt using a loaded gun."
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Or like every one forming a circle around the deer with loaded guns.

[ November 10, 2005, 07:32 PM: Message edited by: Bunyon ]

 

[poncho]

You sure made a wide circle around those two simple questions Bunyon.

 

[Bunyon]

I wasnt avoiding you questions, Poncho. I just don't want to discuss conspiracy theroies with you, and it was to much work straightening out the "both sides of the Asile" string of thought.

I agree there are globalist influences in our government. But I just don't see a globalist behind ever tree, like you do. But I always pay attention to what you write. Maybe you will convince me one day.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I agree. I don't always disagree that Bush is a globalist. But I would prefer his global agenda than that of the Islamofacist agenda.

I just don't see Bush as the enemy. I see him as the first in about 200 years willing to fight against Muslim aggression.

 

[poncho]

You don't see them behind every tree because they don't hide behind anything, they hide in plain site if one can call it hiding at all. Their pretty much out in the open about now.

All I asked was what do you compare bad too? How is that conspiracy theory? I guess if the President of United States were to come out and say...

We stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective -- a new world order -- can emerge: a new era -- freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace. An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony. A hundred generations have searched for this elusive path to peace, while a thousand wars raged across the span of human endeavor. Today that new world is struggling to be born, a world quite different from the one we've known. A world where the rule of law supplants the rule of the jungle. A world in which nations recognize the shared responsibility for freedom and justice. A world where the strong respect the rights of the weak. This is the vision that I shared with President Gorbachev in Helsinki. He and other leaders from Europe, the Gulf, and around the world understand that how we manage this crisis today could shape the future for generations to come.

From George Herbert Walker Bush's
address to a joint session
of Congress and the nation

September 11, 1990

We still wouldn't believe that their "fifth objective" is a New World Order and we wouldn't ask what the other four objectives were.

 

[poncho]

Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
I agree. I don't always disagree that Bush is a globalist. But I would prefer his global agenda than that of the Islamofacist agenda.

I just don't see Bush as the enemy. I see him as the first in about 200 years willing to fight against Muslim aggression.

Please explain to me about this islamofascism Bro Curtis, I've done some reading on fascism and I don't quite follow how the islamists are any more fascistic than our own goverment.

BTW, I don't see Bush as the enemy. I see him more as third level management in the NWO maybe even fourth level.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Come on, Poncho. Surely you don't equate our government with the likes of Iran's, do you ?